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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Brian writes: And scripture is quite clear about what will happen if you do not reach out to others with love and kindness. What will happen to a born again child of God's? God Bless, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Brian writes: According to Christian mythology they will live happily ever after in the Kingdom of God. You missed the question. You said they are doing good deeds to be rewarded in the hearafter. I asked if a born again child of God did not do the things you said people were doing to be rewarded in the hearafter what would happen to them.
Brian writes: Can you tell me what will happen to someone who isn't a born again child of God? They get to spend eternity with their father the Devil. God Bless, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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LonearAq writes: Additionally, not all Christians help out. The vast majority don't do anything beyond dropping coin in the collection plate. Christians - Wikipedia
Christian is a person who adheres to Christianity, a monotheistic[1] religion centered on the life and teachings of Jesus Christ as presented in the New Testament[2] and interpreted by Christians to have been prophesied in the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament Now if this is the definition of Christian you are using I will agree with you. But this definition has nothing to do with anything other than religion. That is why I do not claim to be a Christian. I do claim to be a born again child of the King. King Jesus. Let me put a couple of things straight here. When I was 9 years and 11 months old I asked Jesus to take my spirit and take care of it. At that moment I was born again and He sent the Holy Spirit to lead me and guide me for my journey here on earth. The Holy Spirit sealed my soul until the day of redemption.
Ephe 4:30 (KJV) And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. I shall never perish.
John 10:28 (KJV) And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. So Jesus saved me. The Holy Spirit sealed me. Jesus gave me eternal life and I shall never perish. Nobody, or power can get me out of the hand of Jesus. That means I don't have to do anything to go to heaven but die physically. So if I can't lose it how can you say what I do, (I will not speak for other people) I do expecting a reward. I help because I want other's to share what I have been blessed with. I do understand your viewpoint as you do not know my friend, my Jesus. There are billions of professors but only a few posessors. If a person is doing something to receive a reward from God they have already received their reward. A child of God does not have to do anything to get the reward that you put forth he will receive.Matthew chapter 25 has nothing to do with a born again child of God as they will have had their judgment at least 3 1/2 years prior to the judgment of the nations. Since you are such a great theologian would you please point out the scripture that tells me that I have to do anything besides make disciples, baptize them and teach them the all things that Christ commanded. Matt. 28:19, 20. This was the orders given to the New Testament Church.And the two commandments Jesus gave me. Matt 22:37 (KJV) Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Now he gave a lot of rules through Paul on how I am supposed to conduct myself within the local Church. Church member to church member. Paul said concerning feeding the poor. BTW he is the only one who mentioned it. 1Cor 13:3 (KJV) And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. Paul said he could give everything he had to feed the poor and it would profit him nothing. Withouty Charity (Charity here means Love)So if he did it for reward he gets nothing. God Bless, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Brian writes: I asked if a born again child of God did not do the things you said people were doing to be rewarded in the hearafter what would happen to them.
You didnt ask this you asked: "What will happen to a born again child of God's?" In Message 37 I asked in response to your statement taken from Message 36: "What will happen to a born again child of God's?" Your message 36
Christians reach out to others in gestures of Love and kindness, as instructed from scripture.
And scripture is quite clear about what will happen if you do not reach out to others with love and kindness. Yahweh is very good at threatening people into doing what He wants them to, and Christians will do it because they know how evil and jealous yahweh is.
My message 37
Brian writes: And scripture is quite clear about what will happen if you do not reach out to others with love and kindness. ICANT writes: What will happen to a born again child of God's? So if a born again child of God does not reach out to others with what you call love and kindness I ask again, What will happen to the born again child of God? God Bless, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Coragyps could I ask, where you got your degree in theology?
God Bless, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Brian writes: Can I ask where you got yours? Florida Baptist College, Lakeland Fl.Greek and Hebrew. God Bless, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Coragps writes: I don't have one - mine are both in chemistry. If I had taken theology, would they have taught me, "Oh, Jesus didn't really mean what he said there?" Probably depends on what school you went to. I was taught to ask 5 questions about any scripture. I was also taught in journalism class the same 5 questions. Who, What, Where, When and Why. Answers to those questions can shed a lot of light on what is being said in any conversation. God Bless, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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rbp writes: Florida Baptist college is only accredited by National Association of Schools of Music. I have no idea what school you are talking about. The School I attended in Lakeland Fl. in 1965 ceased to exist in the late 70's. At the time I attended Florida Baptist College in Lakeland Fl. The teachers were all certified by Bob Jones University.
rbp writes: Besides, if people have degrees or not is irrelevant. I agree as it only states someone attended classes and met certain minimum requirements. Some can even be purchased over the internet. The proof of the pudding is in the palatability of the pudding. I think I will skip the course on marriage. My wife and I celebrated our 51st wedding anniversary last evening. God Bless, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Brian writes: Bit of a nightmare applying these questins to the Gospels, given that they were all anonymous and difficult to date. Brian assuming the above statement to be correct which I do not. Could you explain to me why Matthew 24:1, 2 is written in future tense. A prediction of something that was going to happen in the future. If it had already come to pass in 70 AD? God Bless, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Brian writes: An intersting fact about 'Matthew's' Gospel is that the earliest mention of it is by Eusebius in the 4th century when he refers to this Gospel being identified as having been written by Matthew by Bishop Papias in th emid 2nd century. But, Papias claims that Matthew collected the stories of Jesus in Hebrew, and the Gospel of Matthew we have is in Greek and shows no signs of being translated from Hebrew. We may not even have the same Gospel today that the early churches used. Wasn't Matthew's gospel translated from Hebrew into Greek by James the Less? Is not Luke considered a historian and the book of Luke and Acts ascribed to him? Irenaeus, Clement, Origen and Tertullian all believed Luke wrote both. Luke traveled with Paul so his writings would date fairly early. So if Luke wrote the book of Luke it could not have been long after the disciples died. God Bless, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ramoss writes: Have you ever heard of 'making a prediction after the fact'. A great way to impress the gullible, by claiming you made a prediction before it happened, but only actually made the prediction after the fact. Sure I see them claimed here quite often. But they wrote a whole book of things that had already happen as if they had not happened yet with out slipping up once and letting it shine through that they were in fact speaking after the fact. Simply amazing. God Bless, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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