Nazism

Sounds like the "no true scotsmen" fallacy to me.Off-topic: What's up with that avatar dude? Where did that come from? It's freaky!This message has been edited by SuperNintendo Chalmers, 02-14-2006 09:50 AM

The right wing of the republican party belives in social darwinism also.Not sure what your point is? This has nothing to do with god or religion. It's just another example of group elitism.... "my group is better than yours". Some people use things like "The bell curve" to say whites are smarter than blacks. Some people use the "bible" to say christians are better/more moral than non-believers. People have always used various reasons including science and religion to prove their group is better than others throughout history.Crusades
Manifest Destiny
Inquisitions
Holocaust
Ethnic Cleansingetc, etc, etcI personally think the Nazi's get a bad rap for someone being the worst thing that ever existed. Don't get me wrong; the Nazi's did a lot of bad things (I'm certainly no holocaust denier)...... but there are a lot of other groups that also did a lot of bad things. Stalin and the soviets, Genghis Khan, the persian empire, Americans (eradicating virtually all indigenous people), spanish conquistadors, etc. etc. etc. The Nazis are just another example of a group that did bad things to other people

Excuse me? I need to prove the obvious now?A pure capitalist system IS social darwinism. At least the way I would define it. I think we all believe in social darwinism to some extent (I know I do a bit).I just think that the right-wing believes in it even more. Being against, national health-care, welfare, social security, etc. IS social darwinism.It's not like social darwinism is a completely bad thing in a general sense. I think we all know that not all people are created with equal ability.Edit: Rand, upon further reflection it's possible that we are using differnt definitions of the phrase social darwinism. I certainly didn't mean that the right wing believes in eugenics (although I'm certain some fringe groups do.... but both sides have fringe groups and one can certainly find a fringe group for just about anything!)This message has been edited by SuperNintendo Chalmers, 02-14-2006 01:57 PM

Rand I think we can agree on that.Of course in my opinion anyone against social darwinism would support universal healthcare. But I think that's another issue.I think we agree that there is belief in what I would call "general social darwinism" on both sides.An interesting topic.

If you guys are interested, I've proposed a new thread on how we classify people and what method(s) should be used. (I thought your conversation was interesting enough for a new thread )