Too undatable

The part about this that's going to suck, though, is that you have to take "no" for an answer. But don't take it as an answer until she says it. Make her have to be as clear as possible by explaining your feelings as clear as possible. Remove the ambiguity.But then, if she says no, you have to live with it. That's what adults do. We cool?

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Am I being called by the evil to stray away from God?

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Or.. you are being called by God to stray her away from Satan.
Besides about Jesus hung out, (Mark 2:17) "They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."I don't know much about women, I've never been married yet. But I think CrashFrog gives a very nice advice.
Good luck.

Well, I will be seeing her tomorrow night. We'll see what happens eh?
I was going to say "I hope for the best". but I do not have hope..this reason is because.."Hope is mere expectation. Failed expectation leads to dissappointment. If you can expect one thing from hope, it possibly is unfavoring."Er.. I must be tired...

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"I no longer fear hell, but have grown accustomed to it."

Well, I am filling in for her again..I went to see her..we got on really well. The only thing stopping me from doing too much was her house-mate..he is one of my co-worker's sons. O_o. I mean I get on with him ok, but then his dad (at work) will be on my back. And trust me, he WOULD be.The manager (at work) said to me(about the girl) "I thought she was in love, but not with YOU".. :S I work at a place that is home to many rumours and politics..Dunno what goes on here..Oh well, I'll see her again..Tomorrow.

Huh? I don't get it. What business is it of his? Dude, you have to tell her how you feel before the window closes. Screw your courage to the sticking place and do it!

Of course you wouldn't get it..You see, the dad is VERY nosey, extremely nosey I should say..and he HAS to know what's going on apparently. That, and he is an EX-Bouncer at a Nightclub.I'll tell you what, man. I WILL call her right now. Enough. AND I will. I keep my word. See you guys in a little then?

Heh. I was gonna say "isn't it a little late?" but then I realized that you're in Australia. (It's about 3 am here.)

She's up then anyways (at 3) But she isn't home she's at herbartending course.Can I ask you something, Frog? You seem very keen to help. Not that I mind, but it's rare that people will spend this much effort explaining some advice.

I'm a nice guy, with many nice-guy friends who, like me, had trouble with the ladies. I applied myself to unraveling the mystery of why women say the want to meet nice guys but never wind up dating the nice guys that they know. I came to realize a few things.Now I spread that knowledge to nice guys and try to help them get laid. It's my quest.

Well, I called. Um, she said she isn't really interested in me THAT way. I see. She IS keen to keep me as a valued friend..funny thing is, shesaid she might help ME find the "someone". Oh well.
I guess I'm happy with that.I know it's got low morale, but I can always hire a "visiting lady".............again.Crashfrog, if I ever came to,wherever you were, would you hang? You sound pretty cool.PS:I actually published a book on how NOT to meet women, or what turns them away, that sort of thing. I have ALOT of experience in that. I mean..ALOT.

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"I no longer fear hell, but have grown accustomed to it."

Listen, my dad for the longest time was wondering if I was ever going to find a girlfriend. Everytime I would see him he would ask "have you found a girlfriend yet?" I told him the right one would come along when the time was right. I started enjoying myself and not worrying about what the girls thought about me. I ended up being myself when all along I thought I was being myself I wasn't. I was acting like what I thought I should be. They can pick up on it. They want someone who is sure of themself, confident. I now have a great wife of 5 years and two boys 2 1/2 and 7 mnths. So don't worry, leave it up to GOD. He'll provide. God be with you. -Z

I thought you were praying for God to bring a woman into your life. Are asking him for a hooker now? And crashfrog doesn't know women. He's a tadpole in a big lake wondering what he will "evolve" into next. Right bullfrog. You're getting advice from someone that wants a whole bunch of sex and no love. Crashfrog.....pop the top and go to sleep. -Z

Except, obviously, the one I'm married to.What an asshole.

I know the original thread is old, but hopefully you will check back.

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Well, I have never even been on ONE date. Ever. I go out and all that, but I remain single

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Have you actually asked a girl out on a date? I've read through all the threads and I don't see it.My daughter is in your age range and I don't think they do actual dating anymore. They go on group things and then I guess two people drift together. Which sounds like what you are doing and it isn't working for you.You sound a lot like me. I don't click with people in a romantic way in a group situation. That is why I asked them out for a one on one date. Movie, fair, bowling, etc. Then they get to see and know me.If you are truly following your faith and looking for a relationship with future potential you may be around women who are not looking for commitment. You may be the type of man to settle down with and not just love and leave.If you are looking for someone just to have sex with, then the women may be picking up on that too and maybe they are wanting a relationship.You need to check your motives.Good Luck!

crashfrogFret not CF for Zachariah is doubtless more shadow than substance.It is endearing to see him rattle on with mindless drivel to avoid {Oh,perish the thought!} actually thinking for himself.LOL.