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Author Topic:   Why Do People Steal?
DrJones*
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Message 66 of 270 (641366)
11-18-2011 6:35 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by Artemis Entreri
11-18-2011 6:04 PM


Re: fraud
Always looking for an opportunity for name calling.

Why is it name calling to call some one who admits to breaking the law a criminal?

God separated the races and attempting to mix them is like attempting to mix water with diesel fuel.- Buzsaw Message 177

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
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DrJones*
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Message 70 of 270 (641371)
11-18-2011 6:47 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Artemis Entreri
11-18-2011 6:45 PM


Re: are you one of those French Canadians?
A criminal is someone who commits a crime, you admit to breaking the law, therefore you are a criminal. It's a simple statement of fact not an insult.

God separated the races and attempting to mix them is like attempting to mix water with diesel fuel.- Buzsaw Message 177

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor


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DrJones*
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Message 83 of 270 (641386)
11-18-2011 8:14 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by Artemis Entreri
11-18-2011 7:26 PM


Re: YAY back on topic.
I think it is dishonest. And I know it is illegal, but I do not think it constitutes theft. I think the crime is Fraud, if the crime were theft then I would not have an argument.

If by fraudulent means you pay $1 for something that is priced at $10 you are stealing $9 from the store.

God separated the races and attempting to mix them is like attempting to mix water with diesel fuel.- Buzsaw Message 177

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor


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DrJones*
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Message 138 of 270 (642415)
11-28-2011 3:53 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by Artemis Entreri
11-28-2011 3:03 PM


Re: fraud as theft
Not if the cost of the product is $0.50, they are still making a profit, instead of the gouged deceptive (fraud) price of $10.

The cost of the product to the store is irrelevant. By fraudulently not paying the full price you are stealing from the store. Any non-criminal customer would pay the full price for the product, by not paying the full price you are depriving the store of money, you are stealing through fraudulent means.

I could say I out frauded a frauder.

You could say that, it wouldn't be true, but you could say it.

Not a fan of capitalism?

Are you? By avoiding paying the full price for a product you are denying the store it's profit on that product.

Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.


God separated the races and attempting to mix them is like attempting to mix water with diesel fuel.- Buzsaw Message 177

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor


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