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nator
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Message 12 of 63 (361680)
11-04-2006 9:51 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Legend
11-04-2006 5:56 PM


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I suppose it makes perfect sense : why go and attack someone when you can get your kicks in a much easier, safer and more comfortable way at home ?
You are forgetting that a great deal of rape is motivated by a desire to have power over another person and to degrade and humiliate them.

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nator
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Message 14 of 63 (361788)
11-05-2006 6:11 AM
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11-05-2006 1:26 AM


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I never saw the correlation between sexual relaease and rape. Rape is a crime of violence. I cant believe that watching a violent movie would make me less violent.
Well, I don't think that watching a violent movie will make you MORE violent, but it may make you more tolerant of violence when you hear about it or encounter it.

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Message 21 of 63 (362029)
11-05-2006 9:18 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Legend
11-05-2006 2:32 PM


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How many times have we read of rapists who lived all their lives with their parents and never had a girlfriend until one day they snap and start stalking the local Hooters girl ?
Uh, never?
Sorry, I just don't hear about this kind of person being a rapist. You don't need to rape someone to relieve sexual frustration. Ever.
That's what masturbation is for.
Some rapes are crimes of opportunity; "she passed out on the frat house couch" and the like.
If someone rapes another person, it is never, ever only about sexual gratification.
It is about taking something from someone that is not freely offered.

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nator
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Message 23 of 63 (362040)
11-05-2006 10:19 PM
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11-05-2006 10:07 PM


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A couple of people get drunk, have sex, one of them decides later they didn't really want to have sex, and so says the other raped them. Date rape.
That's not date rape.
Date rape is when a couple of people start fooling around, one of them says no and resists going further, and the other one doesn't stop.

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Message 43 of 63 (362837)
11-09-2006 9:42 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by Omnivorous
11-09-2006 12:30 AM


Re: Crash is taken, ladies!
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Still, I hear no other male voice here so ardently feminist--and ardent feminism is the only appropriate choice for a man strong enough to love a strong woman.
That's how come brenna and I think you and crash are so sexy.

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Message 56 of 63 (362967)
11-09-2006 8:07 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Silent H
11-09-2006 4:15 PM


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This kind of stuff is part of the antisex position that humans basically don't want it, and if so only when they are at their most rational.
Er, I don't read it that way at all.
I read it as people shouldn't assume that any pariticular person wants to do it with them.
It also read it as people shouldn't assume they have a right to another's body just because they want that body.
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Sex is not a complex situation. People want it or they do not. If you have sex with someone who doesn't want it, or take precautions so they don't have a chance to express their choice (unconscious/incoherent) then you are violating/raping someone.
I don't for a minute believe that all cases of having sex are anywhere near that black and white.
What, do you think all people simply ask "Hey, will you have sex with me?"
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