Don't turn my God-fearing kid gay!

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I would certainly not want to confuse those ministries that participate in very helpful projects to those that release flyers filled with hate and lies about homosexuals. So, I thank you for giving me the opportunity to clarify.

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Yes, now I know you have no idea what you're talking about. And refuse to acknowledge your false presumption.Of course, not accepting another person for what they are, who they are is disgusting, but it is a reality that as Americans at least we can see. Or at least I can.

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If the shoe fits.

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You have failed to provide ample evidence for the shoe to fit, morely have shown me your annoying preconcieved notions about myself, before knowing me as an individual, away from "ignorant fundie organizations."

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What about African and native Americans? They are both minorities as well, does that mean they shouldn't be accepted in society?

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It's not about if a group of people should be accepted, it's about what groups are accepted.

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For some reason you think I said homosexuality was widely accepted. Obviously it is not, there are still a lot of people who remain stedfast in their opposition to it, just look at the original post. What I'm saying is that it should be.

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Ok, so for the last, say 3 posts we have been talking about nothing.

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homosexuality was widely accepted. Obviously it is not

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consider Million for Marriage -- which is part of the Human Rights Campaign -- currently has 616,922 signatures and is well above schedule for reaching their target.

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Well now that we are past that, (hope) would you think that having 2 homosexual parents, until at least the age of revelation for the child would create a curtain that would make the child believe that people are all homosexuals, thats the way things are, or it's alright feel? This of course would be in the eyes of society.Myself, I agree that it's alright.

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The current estimates say about 3-4% of the population is gay.

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ok 3-4,.. 96-97... Normal, sure. : - /

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What I'm wondering is what does this have anything to do with what we are discussing about. So what if homosexuals make up .00000001% of the population? What's your point?

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Society deems it as not normal. This could be distorted in having 2 gay parents.

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Good.

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So, do you object to interracial marriages?

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It's not about if a group of people should be accepted, it's about what groups are accepted.

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In my community, gay couples with children are accepted.Is that bad?

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ok 3-4,.. 96-97... Normal, sure. : - /

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3% of the total population of the world is 180,000,000 people.That's one hundred eighty million gay people in the world.Who are you to tell each one of them that they aren't normal?

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Society deems it as not normal.

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Maybe in your sad society it's deemed as such, but not in my town.

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This could be distorted in having 2 gay parents.

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You do realize that this is the same argument used to justify bigotry against interracial and interfaith marriages, don't you?

My parents slept in seperate beds!This message has been edited by Phatboy, 05-01-2005 10:48 AM

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My parents slept in seperate beds!

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So did mine.They also abused all of their kids.

The majority of the nation, and pretty much the world, not to mention almost all of the organized religions view homosexuality as not normal. You can claim that the small area where you live views it as normal, but many more do not.This does not mean the majority are "right", but he has a correct position that "society" deems it as not normal. It is also the same argument used against polyamorous/polygamous couples, incestuous (adult) couples, and couples where one or more of the participants are below and arbitrary age (though obviously of child bearing age in this case). Indeed I have just recently seen the same argument made against women who work as prostitutes.My question to you is only this: do you maintain a consistent position and defend all of the above, or just homosexuality/interracial/interfaith relationships?I'm not attempting to pick a fight, but to figure out where you stand.

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That's one hundred eighty million gay people in the world.

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Hmmm....180 million would make them the 6th largest country in the world behind #5 Brazil and ahead of #6 Pakistan. Source

Why would I?Do you?

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Maybe in your sad society it's deemed as such, but not in my town.

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You're cool.

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Who are you to tell each one of them that they aren't normal?

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I didn't, I noted that society has since the beginning of time.

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