Don't turn my God-fearing kid gay!

*sigh*what in the world does sexuality have to do with raising children. wanting to be kinky doesn't affect your ability to love another person and provide a safe and healthy environment. kinky people only get kinky with their lovers, not with everyone else. who are you to judge this? it's not different with gay people. it simply doesn't matter.the only time when sex should play a role in the decision of acceptable parent is instances of promiscuity. that does not contribute to a healthy, safe environment.

there are always unadopted kids. cause nobody wants the older ones; nobody wants the retarded ones; nobody wants the handicapped ones. and there are a ton.

This is the reason why my partner and I not seek to adopt newborn and completely healthy children.

good for you.

What's sad is that people like prophex and phat would rather those kids grow up in the orphanages and get kicked out when they turn 18 than for people like me to adopt. And here they are trying to preach about humanity.

many people view humanity in very limited terms...

My parents are paying everything for me so that I can get through college all the way without having to worry about money issues. I WILL do the same for the kids that I WILL adopt. Can someone seriously say that those kids are better off growing up in orphanages and go out into the world on their own when they're 18?

Troy, I wish your future family all the best.I can't help but notice no one has stepped up to directly say YOU are not a good parent regardless of how well they know you personally. I think it's because you've humanized the issue to a certain degree. Cowards.

I think it's hard for them to understand that there is at least 1 gay guy out there that is in college pursuing theoretical physics that also dreams to one day have a stable job, husband, house, kids (that I will adopt), pets, etc. What's even harder for them to understand is that I blend in just find with the "normal" crowds. So far, not a single person (after having met, talking to me, and get to know me) have been able to tell that I was gay until I tell them. Even then, half of them have trouble believing.In fact, I have been hanging out with some (you could say) popular people for a year now. They are your typical sport figures (all of them with 6 packs, etc.) that date your typical blonde dolls that are so skinny you can see right through them. I play volleyball, football, do workout and lift weights, etc. with them almost everyday. I party, drink, and dance with them during the weekends (got in trouble with the authority last weekend... between us all we got fined 750 bucks ). They even tried to get me to sleep with some girls they know. I enjoy their company and they enjoy mine. So far, not a single one of them have been able to tell that I am 100% gay. One of the girls (which was practically all over me) asked me once after I pushed her away several times if I had ever slept with anyone and I said yes. She wondered a little and asked me if they were girls... and I answered no. That was how she found out. The others are still clueless.This is why I am still puzzled by this "gay lifestyle" that people keep referring to. What the hell is it? I don't even know where the nearest "bathhouse" is to where I'm living.I wonder if gay bashers actually prefer me to start dressing in tight leather pants and act fruity just so I wouldn't confuse them.This message has been edited by Troy, 04-28-2005 09:29 PM

Just forward all future hot blondes to me, problem solved.

Dude, you can't even have a real conversation with half of them.Added by edit.By the way, I should note that Aaron took some bullets for me (figuratively speaking) in the last weekend incident. It made me realize how good of a friend he is. While I cannot tell you the details, let just say that he made a pretty big sacrifice for me. I love you, Aaron!This message has been edited by Troy, 04-28-2005 09:36 PM

[quote]At least, they are still in touch with the truth,[wuote]and what truth is that?That families come in all sorts of configurations?

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and severity of situations on this planet. Rather than being pressed on an illusory image of society.

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What "illusory image of society".What are you talking about?

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This non-evidence surprises me.

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Uh, I actually live in a city that is very friendly to gay folks, so I do see lots of gay coulples, many with children, walking around and conducting their lives just like everybody else.Remember, this is the comment you made:

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Portraying homosexuality as the norm is an illusion that a child may have to be faced with if dealing with 2 gay parents.

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And I pointed out to you that the definition of "the norm" has always been entirely relative to one's own experience. there is no objective standard for "normal" when it comes to human society. It has always been in flux.You know, you and your brother would both do well to work on your writing skills. I am getting tired of having to ask you to be clearer, to explain yourself in a way that is understandable.

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If a straight couple were into kinky whips and chains and porno
and I knew about it, I would say that they were not yet ready to adopt kids! Our right to do whatever we want does not protect us from our responsibility to be good role models.

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And what if that straight couple listened to heavy metal music? Or both had shaved heads? Or they had a lot of piercings?What do any of these things have to do with loving a child and raising them with good values?OTOH, I would consider it a bit of a red flag if the straight couple slept in separate beds, went to church 3 days a week, and believed that Armageddon was nigh.

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2) If my 17 year old daughter told me that she liked girls and was dating one, I would not condemn them to hell or yell at her. I would probably want to meet her friend. I would not declare that everything was normal and ok, however.

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Like she'd ever tell you in the first place.

You'd end up like my parents: completely clueless.