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Arkansas Banana Boy Inactive Member |
I was trolling thru old posts and found this one. A huge flood would lay down a large layer of a mixture of existing world material.
To think a flood would create multiple layered sediments does require some supernatural help. ABB
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5195 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
ABB,
But given that strata can be cross-correlated globally to give a relative age, where did the flood begin & end with reference to the eras & epochs? Mark There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
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Arkansas Banana Boy Inactive Member |
I've seen a few versions, each with their problems. As a noncreationist projecting on a creationist theory, I would go with the Cambrian boundary. One could try to claim early life and rock were set down by God, but the major trouble is that most life Noah led up the ramp would not have evolved yet if you consider that pesky geologic column.
The only other 'logical' choice could be aroung the coal forming ages, but we have seen in debate here the problems it has. I need to kill a few brain cells and go google creationist flood theory. ABB
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5195 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
ABB,
One could try to claim early life and rock were set down by God, but the major trouble is that most life Noah led up the ramp would not have evolved yet if you consider that pesky geologic column. Nor does it explain all that sedimentary rock below the CB that looks exactly like the rock above it that was allegedly laid down in the flood. Nor does it explain how all the Precambrian fossils got where they are. Nor does it explain why radiometric dating shows no anomoly whatsoever when moving down the geologic column from the "present" into the Precambrian. Surely a flood would have messed things up a bit? But no, you can move down the GC uninterupted, & the rocks date older & older regardless of whether they were laid down by an alleged flood, or not.
The only other 'logical' choice could be aroung the coal forming ages, but we have seen in debate here the problems it has. I need to kill a few brain cells and go google creationist flood theory. This presents even more of a problem, there are more pre-flood fossils to explain. The radiometric dating problem outlined above still exists, & so the the indiscriminate nature of pre-flood & flood sediments. This is a flood, I am told, that accounts for the geologic column & the fossils contained within it. Such a cataclysm must have left evidence. The rocks that are undisturbed by the flood should be in obvious evidence, & so should the layers deposited after the flood. There should be two crashingly obvious unconformities with flood strata in the middle. But there aren't. There is a fairly obvious conclusion to draw from this. Mark There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1344 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
i've heard creationists claim everything from the entire geological colum to just the k-t boundary. kind of a wide range of claims we're dealing with here.
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roxrkool Member (Idle past 989 days) Posts: 1497 From: Nevada Joined: |
I've heard the Archean-Proterozoic boundary is one possibility for the beginning of the flood. I've also heard the PreC-Cambrian boundary.
The end of the flood appears to be more contentious among the YEC researchers. Some have proposed the beginning of the Cambrian, the Carboniferous, the Permian, the Cretaceous, and the Quaternary. Basically, they don't have a clue. When they're willing to pin themselves down to a time period, they get in trouble because they can't explain all the details.
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Nighttrain Member (Idle past 3994 days) Posts: 1512 From: brisbane,australia Joined: |
And how does one explain mountain lakes, extensive cave systems. lava tubes,craters/calderas with no sign of other than local sediments, heavy minerals deposited near today`s surface?
Simple-----it all happened subsequent to the Flood. |
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edge Member (Idle past 1706 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
I've heard the Archean-Proterozoic boundary is one possibility for the beginning of the flood. I've also heard the PreC-Cambrian boundary. The end of the flood appears to be more contentious among the YEC researchers. Some have proposed the beginning of the Cambrian, the Carboniferous, the Permian, the Cretaceous, and the Quaternary. Basically, they don't have a clue. When they're willing to pin themselves down to a time period, they get in trouble because they can't explain all the details. Hi, Rox, Don't forget the recolonization theory. You know, the one where it's all over by the end of the Archean. This one has the incredibly convienient feature that all evidence of previous life and civilizations was comletely destroyed by a massively destructive event in the Archean. Life then began recolonizing the earth in the Proterozoic. This all makes a lot of sense and many find it intellectually satisfying. After all, an event that would metamorphose most of the existing crust would certainly have destroyed any evidence of its passing.
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lfen Member (Idle past 4678 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: |
To think a flood would create multiple layered sediments does require some supernatural help. Beautiful point. I would say that the real miracle was not the Flood, materializing a bunch of water is much easier than what God achieved after the flood. All traces of the flood were erased, entire populations were given false memories so they thought their civilizations were much older and they were given selective amnesia so they forgot all about the flood. Then God made the entire universe look older than it was. When I see the amount of work he did I realize he really did repent. He must have felt so bad about the flood to go to all that extra work.Those were awesome miracles and to think they didn't get recorded in any of the extant books of the Bible. sigh :-( lfen
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Hrun Inactive Member |
I don't know if this has been discussed yet, but does anybody know where all that water went?
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Lithodid-Man Member (Idle past 2931 days) Posts: 504 From: Juneau, Alaska, USA Joined: |
I don't know if this has been discussed yet, but does anybody know where all that water went? Obviously into the icecaps, sheesh, am I the only one who saw that Costner film?
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Nighttrain Member (Idle past 3994 days) Posts: 1512 From: brisbane,australia Joined: |
Icecaps? What icecaps? Ain`t no icecaps in the Bible.
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roxrkool Member (Idle past 989 days) Posts: 1497 From: Nevada Joined: |
Don't you remember, not everything is in the Bible.
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roxrkool Member (Idle past 989 days) Posts: 1497 From: Nevada Joined: |
Ah, yes, the Recolonization model. Never could get Dave to elaborate on it much.
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Lithodid-Man Member (Idle past 2931 days) Posts: 504 From: Juneau, Alaska, USA Joined: |
I was referring to the erroneous concept in Costner's "Waterworld" in which nearly all of the earth's surface was covered by water because of the melting of the polar icecaps. Seemed in keeping with YEC notions of a global flood.
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