AdminNosy writes:
You are doing pretty well so far antiLie (married to uncleFib?) but please note that this is a science thread. We don't have to get into a mud slinging match. We just have to supply reasoned, evidence based arguments.
You and Rahvin have established your positions as to who you think is right and wrong. This thread is already piled with reasons for discounting the Noachian flood. Perhaps it is time for you to actually answer some of those in full detail.
You are correct. Here is a rebuttal. Above the molten rock at the center of our planet is a mantle of black basalt, from which flows the lava which issues forth out of volcanoes. Above that basalt is to be found the light-colored, coarse-grained crystals we call granite. This is the basement rock of the world and undergirds all of our continents. At times this granite is close to the surface, but frequently a large quantity of sedimentary rock is above it.
The sedimentary rock that overlays the granite could have been laid down by a gigantic flood of waters, and is characterized by strata or layers. The strata are composed of water-borne sediments, such as pebbles, gravel, sand, and clay.
O.D. von Engeln and *K.E. Caster, Geology (1952), p. 129. writes:
"About three-fourths, perhaps more, of the land area of the earth, 55 million square miles [142 million km2], has sedimentary rock as the bedrock at the surface or directly under the cover of the mantle-rock . . The thickness of the stratified rocks range from a few feet to 40,000 feet [121,920 dm] or more at any one place . . The vast bulk of the stratified rocks is composed of shallow-water deposits."
Within that strata is to be found billions upon billions of fossils. [remains”or the casts”of plants and animals that suddenly died] Yet fossilization does not normally occur today; for it requires sudden death, sudden burial, and great pressure.
F.H.T. Rhodes, H.S. Zim, and *P.R. Shaffer, Fossils (1962), p. 10. writes:
"To become fossilized a plant or animal must usually have hard parts, such as bone, shell or wood. It must be buried quickly to prevent decay and must be undisturbed throughout the process."
The sedimentary strata (also called fossil-bearing strata or "the geologic column") were laid down at the time of the Flood. There are no fossils in the granite, because that rock was formed prior to the Flood.
by the way.. the uncleFIB thing was awesome...lol
Okay, here are some PREDICTIONS about the column and the flood. ”If the Flood caused the sedimentary rock strata, with their billions of fossils, then the following points would be expected;”and, upon examination of the fossils in the strata”they all prove true:
(1) Animals living at the lowest levels would tend to be buried in the lowest strata.
(2) Creatures buried together”would tend to be buried with other animals that lived in the same region or ecological community.
(3) Hydrologic forces (the suck and drag of rapidly moving water) would tend to sort out creatures of similar forms. Because of lower hydraulic drag, those with the simplest shapes would tend to be buried first.
(4) Backboneless sea creatures (marine invertebrates), since they live on the sea bottom, would normally be found in the bottom strata.
(5) Fish would be found in higher strata since they can swim up close to the surface.
(6) Amphibians and reptiles would be buried higher than the fish, but as a rule, below the land animals.
(7) Few land plants or animals would be in the lower strata.
(8) The first land plants would be found where the amphibians were found.
(9) Mammals and birds would generally be found in higher levels than reptiles and amphibians.
(10) Because many animals tend to go in herds in time of danger, we would find herd animals buried together.
(11) In addition, the larger, stronger animals would tend to sort out into levels apart from the slower ones (tigers would not be found with hippopotamuses).
(12) Relatively few birds would be found in the strata, since they could fly to the highest points.
(13) Few humans would be found in the strata. They would be at the top, trying to stay afloat until they died; following which they would sink to the surface of the sediments and decompose.
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So how does this look in term to the Geologic Column?... I like this model... It could possibly looked like this;
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Recent (Holocene)”Glaciers melt. Evidences of human civilization.
Pleistocene”The Flood waters conclude their receding from the continents. Fossils, strata, and petroleum are no longer being formed. The ice age begins.
Pliocene”The Flood has ended. First mountain building begins, as continents begin rising, ocean basins dropping, and oceans filling. If this had not occurred, everything today would be under water. Some strata forming continues.
Miocene”First large numbers of birds buried. First evidence of volcanic lava.
Oliogocene”First of the very agile monkeys and apes buried.
Eocene”First faster animals (such as horses) buried. No more slow animals (including dinosaurs).
Triassic”First strong land animals buried (slowest dinosaurs).
Mississipian”First land animals buried (slow ones, such as small reptiles).
Silurian”First land plants laid down.
Cambrian”Flood begins. Fossils and strata begin. Slowest creatures buried. But plants float up to higher levels.
Precambrian”Prior to the Flood. No sedimentary strata or fossils.
..... any thoughts?
Agent antiLIE of the AGDT
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