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Nobel Prize vs Proof that the Death Penalty MUST kill innocents

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tsig
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Message 102 of 236 (199141)
04-14-2005 4:16 AM 		Reply to: Message 87 by Silent H
04-13-2005 4:08 PM

Fortunes to be made
"There's no system we can build that is failure-proof, apparently."
Actually there is to all but the most absurd metaphysical and conspiratorial possibilities.
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Where can we find one of these failure-proof systems?
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Message 142 of 236 (199333)
04-14-2005 1:25 PM 		Reply to: Message 140 by Silent H
04-14-2005 12:54 PM

Rules are formed based on the nature of the actor and the subject under study and arbitrary requirements to achieve a level of certainty the actor desires.
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You are arguing from the specific to the general. You have this one airtight case then point at it and ask for agreement to the death penalty. People say no, because the DP more than a single case.
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No system can be 100% foolproof, and I think that Crash, et. al. are saying that they will accept nothing less.
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04-14-2005 3:47 PM 		Reply to: Message 145 by Silent H
04-14-2005 3:28 PM

Better yet, find where I use a specific case to argue that we should have the death penalty.
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The best bet is to start with a clear cut case.
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How can you start with a clear cut case and not be specific?
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Sounds like reasoning from specific to general to me.
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04-14-2005 3:52 PM 		Reply to: Message 147 by crashfrog
04-14-2005 3:32 PM

. That's only the exact system you've been arguing against the whole goddamn thread.
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I don't think he's going to agree. Float on your back in the water, think calm thoughts.
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Message 170 of 236 (199502)
04-15-2005 1:39 AM 		Reply to: Message 152 by Silent H
04-14-2005 4:06 PM

innocent til proven guilty
You have a duty to provide proof of innocence or you are found guilty.
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You are innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. The prosecution has prove your guilt.
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04-15-2005 3:43 PM 		Reply to: Message 173 by Silent H
04-15-2005 9:39 AM

Re: To Ben and All: And apology and explanation and an example...
Get well soon. Be lucky.
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04-16-2005 6:57 AM 		Reply to: Message 174 by nator
04-15-2005 10:03 AM

Re: To Ben and All: And apology and explanation and an example...
You know he suddenly gave out his system, then vanished.
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