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Author Topic:   First Gay marriage, then Polygamy (its happening!)
bkelly
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Message 9 of 94 (248206)
10-02-2005 2:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Silent H
10-02-2005 8:38 AM


what's the problem
I find there is no problem with polygamy, polyandry, or homosexual marraige.
If two men and one woman, or two women and one man wish to live their lives as a social unit, why is that bad? Just one for example, in our moden society, two can work while one stays home to take care of the children. There are many other reasons and possibilities. There is no crime and there is no victim. What is the problem?
Regarding homosexual couples, if any two people find comfort, companionship, joy in their relationship, why do I have any business in paying any attention what-so-ever to what goes on in the privacy of their home. If they wish to contribute to each others medical care, each others retirement funds, or any other endeavor, how am I harmed? I am not.
(I do draw a line with emotional and physical mistreatment, even when both parties appear to participate on a voluntary basis)
"Marriages" of one male and one female break up with all sorts of legal problems. Why should partnerships of any other form be more or less problematic? (Yes there are more poeple involved, but the same is true with large families, corporations, etc.)
The time has long since arrived for self righteous bible thumpers and manipulative governments to stop trying to push their assumed moralities on the private lives of citizens.
To address a few replies, the problems with children and beasts have probably existed since the beginnings of humanity are not in the same class as the OP. That side issue should be dropped from this thread.

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bkelly
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Message 38 of 94 (248968)
10-04-2005 8:18 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Silent H
10-03-2005 3:53 AM


holmes writes:
Unless polygamous people will get married and then divorced all at once, yet demand different procedures for each partner?
That gave me a thought. A marriage of four going through divorce might be easier than two. If three people say the fourth is behaving badly, that is stronger evidence than when two say each other is behaving badly.
Of course, that could be three people being vindictive, but that happens anyway and represents no change.

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bkelly
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Message 48 of 94 (250568)
10-10-2005 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Lizard Breath
10-10-2005 6:46 PM


Re: what's the problem
Lizard Breath writes:
It's a natural mechanical funtion mixed with a civilized concept of greeting.
You ask others for proof of their position, but you supply no proof of yours.
(edited to add this sentence after seeing another post) BTW: the bible is not proof.
No, its not natural. It has been beat into us (the public) by unfounded religious beliefs for centuries. As Crash said, check out some other countries. I have damn little praise for President Bush, but somewhere he found the sense to hold hands with some Arab leader (I never did get the name but its not really important, but did see the new stories) who visited him rather than snub him.
I am straight and I think that there is something wrong in homosexuals. However, just like someone born with a deformed hand or leg, or born deaf or blind, that status in their life has no real effect on their ability to perform as humans and to be just as moral and ethical as any other human. Indeed, they are generally more ethical and moral that the homophobic idiots of today's religions and government.
She may pull back, but she won't flex on you like the dude will.
But she just might kick your ass or get you thrown in jail for sexual assault.
read yet another and added the below
Message 47
As far as muslim countries backing legitimacy for homosexuality based on their greeting customs, you'ld better hope that we win this war over there because muslims will not take the time to establish a dialog with you on homosexuality as they are cutting your arms off.
I read Crash as refuting the position that recoiling from another man's friendly touch is not natural. Not to legitimitize homosexuality. (the quoted fragment is quiet on legitimization) I don't see where you responded to his position.
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Truth fears no question.
bkelly

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bkelly
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Message 49 of 94 (250576)
10-10-2005 9:13 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Lizard Breath
10-10-2005 5:25 PM


Re: what's the problem
Lizard Breath writes:
Hi Jacen. Sorry I've taken so long to answer back. Events in the Gulf Coast region and in Iraq have been keeping me very busy. I actually damn near got my ass killed down in the Gulf the day that the hurricane hit Texas. It's sometimes safer in the middle east then in the U.S.
Before this gets buried, have you returned? If so, welcome back. I am glad (and hope) you are okay. If not back, is there anything I can send you or your buddies? Give me an address. I have sent some packages through organizations but have absolutely no idea if they made it to anyone. I included notes and my email address but never heard back.

Truth fears no question.
bkelly

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