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Author Topic:   The Brights take a poll
bkelly
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Message 1 of 21 (252249)
10-16-2005 6:26 PM


The Brights are taking a position in the debate about teaching ID in schools. If you are not a Bright please take a look here
www.the-brights.net
Consider joining. Read the latest bulletin and take the poll.

I took the poll and support the position. Where do you stand in this debate? Are there other ways we can have any input in the currently active court case?


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roxrkool
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Message 2 of 21 (252588)
10-18-2005 2:24 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by bkelly
10-16-2005 6:26 PM


You know, I'd consider joining if I didn't absolutely hate the name they've chosen. It's a shame, really, as I'm not the only one to feel that way. I think the name keeps a lot of people away.

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bkelly
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Message 3 of 21 (253172)
10-19-2005 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by roxrkool
10-18-2005 2:24 AM


What's in a name?
There are a lot of people with that same position. The web site has some letters and discussion on it. It a way, it does seem arrogant. But on the other side, did you complain when the homosexual community hijacked the word gay. I have a very dear woman friend with the name Gaynell who, long before the "gay" movement, went by the name Gay. What is she to do?

I wonder how many people have read this or any thread or message. I don't see any counters for that.


Truth fears no question.

bkelly


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Coragyps
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Message 4 of 21 (253173)
10-19-2005 6:43 PM


Like Rox said: the ideas are fine, but the name is just almost bizarre. Somewhere between arrogant and the cartoon Rainbow Bright.

'Course, I'm not much of a joiner in any case. What was it Groucho Marx said? "I refuse to join any organization that would let me be a member!"


  
crashfrog
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Message 5 of 21 (253187)
10-19-2005 7:12 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by roxrkool
10-18-2005 2:24 AM


You know, I'd consider joining if I didn't absolutely hate the name they've chosen.

That's pretty big talk from somebody named "Roxrkool". :D OMGWTFPWND!!!one11!!


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gene90
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Message 6 of 21 (253188)
10-19-2005 7:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by bkelly
10-16-2005 6:26 PM


Is it really a surprise that a group that espouses naturalistic worldviews would oppose a religious position in the classroom?

I mean, it's like the Chess Club's vote on the best boardgame.


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bkelly
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Message 7 of 21 (253194)
10-19-2005 7:47 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by gene90
10-19-2005 7:22 PM


Why oppose religion in the classroom?
I do not speak for all Brights, but I oppose it on at least two grounds.

Foremost, it is contrary to the constitution. Public schools are government run and presence there clearly implies approval and support. Those that believe in religion work day and night to infuse their brand of religion into the government. Schools are one place they are trying to open up a crack.

Second, as I observe the effects of religion, I am becoming more opposed to it by the day. I cerainly do not want it taught in schools, constitution or not. If you want to argue that, please check out the history of religion before you post. It is downright horrible.


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bkelly
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Message 8 of 21 (253195)
10-19-2005 7:50 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by crashfrog
10-19-2005 7:12 PM


I'll bite.
Crashfrog writes:

OMGWTFPWND!!!one11!!

Allright, I'll bite, please spell that out.


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gene90
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Message 9 of 21 (253196)
10-19-2005 7:51 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by bkelly
10-19-2005 7:47 PM


Re: Why oppose religion in the classroom?
I don't recall saying that religion should be taught in the classroom. At least not in public schools.

quote:

Is it really a surprise that a group that espouses naturalistic worldviews would oppose a religious position in the classroom?

I mean, it's like the Chess Club's vote on the best boardgame.


I just don't think this is a big surprise.

This message has been edited by gene90, 10-19-2005 07:52 PM


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roxrkool
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Message 10 of 21 (253214)
10-19-2005 8:55 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by crashfrog
10-19-2005 7:12 PM


HEY!!! My name is cool!

Okay. I understood this much 'OMGWTF'...P_____ W_____ Not(?) Do(?).


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roxrkool
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Message 11 of 21 (253215)
10-19-2005 8:58 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by bkelly
10-19-2005 6:33 PM


Re: What's in a name?
Honestly, it's not that I think it's arrogant or have something against hijacking words. It's just dumb. Plain and simple.

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bkelly
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Message 12 of 21 (253219)
10-19-2005 9:10 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by gene90
10-19-2005 7:51 PM


Re: Why oppose religion in the classroom?
Aw gee, thats twice in two days I misread a post. I see what you meant. Sorry.

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crashfrog
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Message 13 of 21 (253227)
10-19-2005 9:50 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by bkelly
10-19-2005 7:50 PM


Re: I'll bite.
OMGWTFPWND!!!one11!!

Oh My God - What The Fuck - PWND!!

"PWND" means "owned".


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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 14 of 21 (253331)
10-20-2005 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by bkelly
10-16-2005 6:26 PM


eh. i think it would be more useful to have a society in which people are free to hold whatever mystical, supernatural, hoogity boogity beliefs they want and have te responsibility to observe the rights of others to hold views different from them rather than a society like this one which excludes people of beliefs who don't think that other people should be subject to them. what they're doing is just as nasty as the fundies. they're exclusive and discriminating.

i like my sky-daddy, thanks. and i'd rather like to keep him and honestly i don't want to share him with you cause i don't think you're good enough. :p


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bkelly
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Message 15 of 21 (253485)
10-20-2005 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by macaroniandcheese
10-20-2005 11:01 AM


who, where, why
Hello brennakimi,
Thank you for your thoughts.

brennakimi writes:

i like my sky-daddy, thanks. and i'd rather like to keep him and honestly i don't want to share him with you cause i don't think you're good enough

Would you be so kind as to tell me who is your sky-daddy? Why do you think he exists? Where is he? I have heard this in many variations but have not heard these questions answered?

I am carrying on an internal debate about this being off topic, but this is about brights who specifically do not believe in supernatural entities. I am a bright and am wondering if you have an argument that can convince me of your position.

I don't know where my signature originated, but it is appropriate.


Truth fears no question.

bkelly


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