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Author Topic:   Velociraptor had feathers?
arachnophilia
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Message 7 of 11 (423305)
09-21-2007 5:45 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Zhimbo
09-20-2007 9:40 PM


...but only because it made sense based on its placd in the evolutionary tree. Speculation, really. Informed speculation, but speculation.
i liked "testable hypothesis" better, myself. and now "confirmed hypothesis."
another small victory for evolution.


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Message 8 of 11 (423306)
09-21-2007 5:51 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by macaroniandcheese
09-20-2007 8:56 PM


we've been talking about raptors with feathers for years...
archaeopteryx lithographica appears to either be, or be closely related to basal deinonychosaurs. which places it well inside maniraptora, meaning that everything we see with feathers today is a "raptor."
the idea about velociraptor mongoliensis having feathers isn't new, by any stretch. greg paul predicted it 20 years ago (in his eyes, every small theropod seems to have had feathers). and because of its close relationship with things like microraptor gui, it's been widely accepted for the last 5-10 years that v. mongoliensis probably had feathers too.
still, this is by far the coolest news i've heard in months.
Edited by arachnophilia, : No reason given.


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Message 11 of 11 (423350)
09-21-2007 12:41 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Dr Adequate
09-21-2007 6:05 AM


No.
We already knew that there were feathered dromaeosaurs.
One more potentially feathered dromaeosaur is neither here nor there.
err, no, what i mean is that they evolutionary relationship (as described above) predict that velociraptor, as a small very bird-like dinosaur, would have feathers. it does. the prediction was made, and confirmed.
i agree, it's not THAT significant, but it is another, well, feather in evolution's cap.


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