2/3rds of Americans want creationism taught.

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You want to say it's a manufactured controversy, fine, but it's over in terms of public opinion. The evolutionists lost.

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So one Pew poll settles the issue? So I guess you support pulling out of Irag immediately, given repeated poll results showing little support for our continued presence?Even if the Pew poll ended the game, sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for...Maybe scientists need to adopt the ID wedge approach. Perhaps it is time to have a scientific refutation presented in every religious studies class; heck, maybe it should be required in every church, temple, and mosque--after all, every taxpayer helps to subsidize those temples of ignorance: It's only fair. I'm not saying the Atheistic critique is settled truth, but there is a controvery: let's teach it.Or perhaps it is a state rights issue: Kansas can teach what it likes, Kansas grads can go to Kansas colleges, and Kansas patients and consumers can depend on Kansas science. We could stop 'em at the border when they head to either coast after the laying on of hands fails to shrink that tumor caused by the nonpollutant the enviro-radicals tried to create so much hysteria about.We haven't yet succeeded in stopping Believers from killing both other Believers and Nonbelievers in the name of God, and human sacrifice continued until not so long ago (less than a millenium) in many places.Evolution is only one battle, and ID is just a skirmish. Creationism is a speed bump on the road to full human realization: nasty enough now, but eventually just another Luddite footnote.Besides, how long can it take to present the Creationist/ID rebuttal?"I just can't believe that!""Ow! That makes my faith hurt!""Bad drawings! Bad!""But the Bible says yadda-yadda-yadda!"Whaddya think? Five minutes per semester? Or the biology teacher could carry a little angel doll, and every time s/he notes another piece of evidence for ToE, the doll could say, "I can't believe you guys don't see through this stuff!"

No, I'm pointing out that you are, and that ending that separation may have unexpected consequences for creationists...

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I'd gladly voluntarily invite you to present evo arguments in a debate with creationists in churches and other places.

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Oh, no--I want the church to hire scientists to do that!

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You guys need to be honest. Show some kids the hooved canine-looking or rat-looking creature Pakicetus with a large graphic, and then show evos claiming it's a whale, in schools across the nation, and evos would be the laughingstock of the nation or at least the children.

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Anyone would laugh at that cartoonish depiction--and that's the kind of distorted depiction that ID/creationism depends on.

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It would be good too because evos could then quit relying on overstatements, and if the evo argument has merit, they can win the trust back of people's trust they have lost, such as mine.

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Then you traded in a belief with strong evidential support for one with none.You're going downhill fast.

Well, that covers the Christians pretty well.Should we start East and move West, or vice versa, in order to cover all the world's creation myths?