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riVeRraT
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Message 156 of 195 (234010)
08-17-2005 10:10 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by paisano
08-03-2005 12:49 PM


Re: Should ID be censored?
ID is not scientific, and weakening K-12 science education is likely to have long-term deleterious effects on the economic competitveness and military technology and strength of the US.
After all we don't want our guys in fox holes saying "God help me please"

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riVeRraT
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Message 159 of 195 (234018)
08-17-2005 10:25 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Yaro
08-03-2005 10:58 AM


ID
I think it should mentioned in schools. In what classroom, I don't know, but it should be mentioned.
People say there is no evidence of intelligent design, well I say there is none against it, because if it is intelligent design, then the whole universe is evidence. We have no proof of how everything started.
This should also be a separate issue from religion, which I believe should also be made known to kids in school, all the religions, but it should be taught by people who are qualified to teach it, i.e. believers. (can you hear the can of worms opening?)
What is it?

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riVeRraT
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Message 161 of 195 (234023)
08-17-2005 10:27 AM
Reply to: Message 157 by Tal
08-17-2005 10:17 AM


Re: Should ID be censored?
Thats the problem right there. It's not 72 virgins, it's 72 Virginians, waiting with bats, and chains.
If we could just let them know, they might stop what they are doing. lol

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riVeRraT
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Message 163 of 195 (234028)
08-17-2005 10:31 AM
Reply to: Message 158 by Jazzns
08-17-2005 10:23 AM


Re: Should ID be censored?
Of course that's the position. Why would it de-emphasize real science. It's a mind expander, and would only help.
Seriously. Why do these discussions have to decend into nonsense. Be honest and argue the position. I think it is disgusting that you post over all kinds of other threads about Christ and morals and then come in here and display this kind of dishonest childish behavior.
Well isn't that just too bad. You don't want to take away my freedom now do you? How very communistic of you. This whole thread is about religious overtones, and what Bush is trying to do, give me a break, and take your insults and go somewhere else.
I didn't even mention Christ, so maybe you should go check yourself. Maybe you are feeling convicted?

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riVeRraT
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Message 165 of 195 (234032)
08-17-2005 10:32 AM
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08-17-2005 10:26 AM


Re: Should ID be censored?
That's not a sig.
Doh!

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riVeRraT
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Message 166 of 195 (234035)
08-17-2005 10:33 AM
Reply to: Message 164 by Jazzns
08-17-2005 10:31 AM


Re: ID
Theology, duh!

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riVeRraT
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Message 171 of 195 (234046)
08-17-2005 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 168 by Jazzns
08-17-2005 10:34 AM


Re: Should ID be censored?
That's your opinion, if you feel my 2 cents is worthless, and I am proud to say you are intitled to it. But to publicly display your judgement of my opinion, borders on the insulting, and would never yeild anything good from it, so why bother?
Surely you are more mature than that?
BTW, it is so fummy that you think I designed that picture youthough was a sig. If you only knew what it was.

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riVeRraT
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Message 173 of 195 (234050)
08-17-2005 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 170 by Jazzns
08-17-2005 10:37 AM


Re: ID
Being that teachers already don't have enough time to teach the other subjects I listed in order to reach the asinine standards set by NCLB which subject would you like to have displaced in order to teach theology?
I cannot give an unbiased opinion on that, because I feel getting saved is the most important thing for anyone. Just like I wish you were saved, out of love. So I don't know. All I know is that it deserves a fair chance, just like any other subject. Maybe it could be part of history, it doesn't take but one day to preach the true gospel of christ, by a qualified person, and could be taught in history, since we teach about greek mytholgy in there. Just a thought.

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riVeRraT
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Message 176 of 195 (234071)
08-17-2005 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 174 by Jazzns
08-17-2005 10:44 AM


Re: Should ID be censored?
Oops my bad about the sig. I guess we were posting too quick there back and forth, and I got confused.
Anyway, telling us that we will be sitting targets because of teaching a theory in class, is just an opinion, and I am entitled to my counter opinion, even if you don't agree. Thats America.

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riVeRraT
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Message 177 of 195 (234076)
08-17-2005 11:49 AM
Reply to: Message 175 by Jazzns
08-17-2005 10:48 AM


Re: ID
I never said you weren't a follower, that is between you and God.
This whole topic was based on teaching ID, which relates to God, so I think it's all relative, and I did not say anything out of context from the topic.
It's the coffee house forum, we should be able to be free in here to say what we want.

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