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DP
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Message 1 of 126 (321981)
06-15-2006 5:18 PM


Greetings, I am a long time viewer of this forum. I have never felt the need to post until today. It appears that Robert Cornuke, a biblical archeologist, has indeed found Noah's Ark.

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WASH—June 15—KIN--Those who participated on the Noah’s Ark expedition to Northern Iran today clarified to KIN that they were making no actual claim that they found Noah’s Ark. Instead, they want to publish pictures, archeological data, and film footage of their expedition and allow the facts to speak for themselves. As soon as that information is available, I will follow up with another story with more details and interviews.

The Expedtion was led by Robert Cornuke and 15 people participated during the first week of June, which included attorneys, archeologists, geoologists, scientists and leaders of Christian ministries.

Bob Cornuke has been at the center of several controversies over his past findings as he has come at odds with secular scholars, but several people who I know personally were on this expedition as well as some credible, internationally known heads of Christian ministries. Cornuke and the participants are careful to not say emphatically that they found Noah’s Ark, but have taken extensive documentation to present their facts for both the public, and the Biblical and scientific communities.

Geologists took nine samples of the ark under the strict eye of a video team for analysis by the Smithsonian Institute. Over 23,000 feet of video was taken and will be released to the public. You can get your first glimpse of it on Fox News with John Kasich Saturday at 8:00 pm EDT, according to the Cornuke team.



http://www.watch.org/showart.php3?idx=79950&rtn=/index.html&showsubj=1&mcat=1

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Despite popular speculation that Noah's Ark rests on Turkey's Mount Ararat, there are a few believers seeking elsewhere. Specifically, Iran.

Evangelical explorer, author and lecturer Bob Cornuke has followed the Exodus route of Moses, dived the Red Sea in search of Pharaoh's chariots, searched for the lost Ark of the Covenant in Israel and Ethiopia, sought in Malta's ocean beds the four anchors from the shipwreck of St. Paul, and traveled through Eastern Turkey with Apollo 15 astronaut James Irwin.

To the above, his research and findings regarding Mt. Sinai have been chronicled by Discovery, the History Channel, and National Geographic Television.

This past summer Cornuke, a former crime scene investigator turned relic hunter, culminated more than 20-years of painstaking research and reconnaissance by climbing Iran’s Mt. Soleiman in search of Noah’s Ark.

Decades of previous expeditions by noted historians, scientists, and explorers have centered the focus of the search on Mt. Ararat in Turkey which, to-date, has been widely-believed, but never proven, to be the landing site of the Ark. But Cornuke has always been focused on the mountainous regions of Iran as the likely landing place for he Ark; retracing the steps and accounts of Ed Davis, an army officer stationed in Iran in 1943.

Davis, who passed a lie detector test, claims to have been taken to the Ark's resting place, and was able to offer both a detailed verbal account, and drawings of what he had seen. Relying on instincts honed from years in law enforcement, and a Biblical interpretation that points toward the Ark's ultimate destinations being further east than traditionally thought, as well as the disappointing lack of progress in finding any evidence of boats that other alleged eyewitnesses claimed to see on Mount Ararat - which Cornuke has climbed several times - led him to believe that Davis' story was worth investigating.

Braving treacherous climbing conditions, and a hostile political environment, Cornuke says he discovered evidence of an altar site, and a structure that geological experts theorize could have been “hand-hewed.”

He returned from Mt. Soleiman with numerous samples, photos, and video footage, and has chronicled the journey in a new book, Ark Fever (Tyndale House Publishers).

Testing of rock and shell samples were conducted by BETA Analytic Inc., the largest professional radiocarbon dating laboratory in the world, which routinely services world governments and major academic and historical institutions such as the Smithsonian Institute. Results of this carbon dating, which is still on-going, indicate the presence of abundant organic material consistent with coming from a quiescent deep-water environment – in layman’s terms, possibly from a world once immersed in water.

Evidence of petrified wood was also brought back, and a world-wide team of experts is studying all materials.

As for Cornuke, he awaits a break in the harsh Iranian winter so that he and a team can return to Mt. Soleiman for further investigation, where he is optimistic that a veil will be lifted on a centuries-long quest for the greatest Bible legend ever chronicled.

Cornuke believes the discovery of the ark would rock the archaeological world, and cause many skeptics to take a renewed look at the historical authenticity of the bible.

As Dr. Mellville Bell Grovesnor, the late editor of National Geographic once said, “If the ark of Noah is discovered, it will be the greatest archaeological find in human history, the greatest event since the resurrection of Christ, and it would alter the currents of scientific thought.”



http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?idCategory=33&idsub=128&id=2424

Fox news will be doing a story on this Saturday night at 8:00 PM EST.


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Message 2 of 126 (321994)
06-15-2006 5:43 PM


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nator
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Message 3 of 126 (321996)
06-15-2006 5:47 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by DP
06-15-2006 5:18 PM


quote:
It appears that Robert Cornuke, a biblical archeologist, has indeed found Noah's Ark.

The Ark has been found again?

How many times is that, now?

Will there be a Geraldo special?


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Message 4 of 126 (321998)
06-15-2006 5:54 PM
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06-15-2006 5:47 PM


It's true. Fox is gonna do a story on it.

Well, there is absolutely no evidence in either of teh articles to let anyone make any kind of a decision. It will be interesting if there really is any evidence to come forward, but regardless, even finding some kindda boat would not add weight or support to the idea of a worldwide flood. That just plain never happened.


Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 5 of 126 (322004)
06-15-2006 6:12 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by nator
06-15-2006 5:47 PM


How many times is that, now?

I have been hearing of be an Ark discovery every two or three years for as long as I can remember.

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Coragyps
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Message 6 of 126 (322009)
06-15-2006 6:22 PM


As for Cornuke, he awaits a break in the harsh Iranian winter so that he and a team can return to Mt. Soleiman for further investigation,

They've moved Iran to the Southern Hemisphere?


    
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Message 7 of 126 (322011)
06-15-2006 6:32 PM


Cornuke and Wyatt
Cornuke is accused - and quite possibly guilty - of trying to "steal" the credit for Ron Wyatt's "discovery" of Mount Sinai.

In short what we have is a fantastic and implausible claim from someone who appears to be unreliable and untrustworthy.

I won't prejudge this but I certainly won't beleive it unless the evidence turns out to be very good.




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Message 8 of 126 (322038)
06-15-2006 7:53 PM


This the same Bob Cornuke who crept into Saudi Arabia so he and Larry Williams could steal the treasure from 'his' Mt. Sinai?(Gold of Exodus--Howard Blum)

    
iano
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Message 9 of 126 (322040)
06-15-2006 8:00 PM
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06-15-2006 6:32 PM


Re: Cornuke and Wyatt
Paul K writes:

In short what we have is a fantastic and implausible claim from someone who appears to be unreliable and untrustworthy.

Paul K writes:

I won't prejudge this

You already have.

Storm in a teacup though I'd reckon myself


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Buzsaw
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Message 10 of 126 (322070)
06-15-2006 10:43 PM


Re: Makes No Sense Biblically
I go with Wyatt's Biblical compatible discovery, ballast stones and all and down where the cattle and other such animals could disembark safely. He may not have gotten everything right but having heard him lecture where he showed his slides, having read his book and having viewed David Fassold's video on this site, I'm convinced it's the true ark site. Iran makes absolutely no sense Biblically, imo.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Message 11 of 126 (322071)
06-15-2006 10:53 PM
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06-15-2006 10:43 PM


Re: Makes No Sense Biblically
I go with Wyatt's Biblical compatible discovery, ballast stones and all and down where the cattle and other such animals could disembark safely. He may not have gotten everything right but having heard him lecture where he showed his slides, having read his book and having viewed David Fassold's video on this site, I'm convinced it's the true ark site. Iran makes absolutely no sense Biblically, imo.

Hi, Buz, did he show piccies of Mr. and Mrs. Noah`s bones? Mrs. Noah`s jewellry?

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Message 12 of 126 (322072)
06-15-2006 10:56 PM
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06-15-2006 10:43 PM


Re: Makes No Sense Biblically
Iran makes absolutely no sense Biblically, imo.

you realize that the modern mt. ararat is on the iranian border, right? you also might want to check the bible more closely:

quote:
Gen 8:4 And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.

the other place we see ararat is in jeremiah:

quote:
Jer 51:27 Set ye up a standard in the land, blow the trumpet among the nations, prepare the nations against her, call together against her the kingdoms of Ararat, Minni, and Ashchenaz; appoint a captain against her; cause the horses to come up as the rough caterpillers.

ararat = kingdom. the ark lands on a mountain range that is inside the kingdom (not in noah's time, but in the author's time).


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Message 13 of 126 (322099)
06-16-2006 2:30 AM
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06-15-2006 8:00 PM


Re: Cornuke and Wyatt
Pointing out that there are strong reasons for doubting the claim is not prejudging it. Prejudgement requires reaching a conclusion, which I have not done.f

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Message 14 of 126 (322120)
06-16-2006 4:48 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by DP
06-15-2006 5:18 PM


If FOX is doing a story then it MUST be true...:D

In any case it's one thing to find the remains of a boat in the Middle East and quite another to argue it was Noah's Ark.

Edited by RickJB, : Typo.


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Message 15 of 126 (322124)
06-16-2006 5:42 AM


Bob Cornuke and Rob Wyatt Cranksterism
How low can they sink?

http://www.geocities.com/robertp_nz/no8wire/Bob_Cornuke_problems.pdf

Wyatt found Noah's Ark and the Ark of the Covenant, where is it?

Cornuke found Mount Sinai, the shipwreck where Paul landed on Malta, now the location of the Ark. Busy guy.

Is there no limit to degrading Christianity for monetary gain these charlatans won't stoop to?

It would help the cause of all humanity if these hucksters were denounced by all Christians, including fundamentalists.


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