Thanks to you both for helping out with answers. Plainly there is a minority group of Christians who believe that "nature" and "God" are somehow opposed to each other. They ask that their ideas be given equal treatment to those of science.
Now I can see that my position is different from theirs, more inclusive. That is to say, I see "nature and it's mechanisms" as being God's creations. It is God who made carbon 14 decay at the rate it does. In my view science is simply the study of the works of the Hand of God.
I wish some of those who want ID taught in school were reading this. Perhaps they would realize that many of us do recognize the force behind all. It is not talked about in science forums simply because it cannot be quantified and studied satisfactorily. If a scientist asks God for insight he or she will do so so quietly, in a personal way.
There are no "supernatural" aspects to the world nor are there "miracles". Everything in the universe is natural; all operates under the guidance of the greatest force we've ever known. When a "miracle" is observed to seemingly be a fact we will know that some process unknown to us is at work and we strive to understand it. We do not quit, falling on our faces in awe!
As for random mutations I rather think these events to be opportunistic within the larger scheme of planned purpose. What seems a chance event on a small scale may well be a planned event on a larger.
I do not support those who seek to have our scientific community proclaim that "some things cannot be explained by science....etc and so there must be an ID behind all." I say that "some things cannot be explained by science, yet".
I do not want my grandchildren to hear in public school that which they may freely listen to in Sunday School if their parents so choose.
I object in the strongest possible terms to a small minority claiming a mandate "to right a wrong" and ask them: if evolution is but a theory are you willing to allow, in the interest of fairness, that creationism is a theory too?
Everything they say distorts and confounds. In what stronger terms may we insult God?
To everyone in the world of minority Christian thought I say: Describe to all of us, in detail, what your empirical method is.
I have visited the Creation Science Center in Santee, California and found it to an effort that was very well done in an artistic sense. The displays are graphically attractive and a story line is in evidence. I am convinced that those who are responsible for this are sincere in their beliefs.
Now let me say that I found disturbing evidence when following their logic. It seems that when researching a bit of geology for instance they either present a conclusion which is plainly wrong to anyone to has taken geology 101 or that they stop in their research when they find the answer they want and present that as scienfific evidence/proof.
I was a humanities major and only took a small amount of geology but even I know that a plutonic mass takes a very long time to settle out into various mineral pockets and to finally cool and that quartz crystals take a very long time to grow in the cooling process.
The ID'ers will fail in their attempts to return us to the days of science being ruled over by the church. And may I say: Thank God for small favors!
Mind always overcomes emotion.
Are any ID'ers reading this? If so please explain, in detail, your brand of science to me. Remember please that if what you claim comes out of the Bible, I, and many others, call it religion.
Thank You,
Jman
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