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Author Topic:   Man raised back to life in Jesus' name
Thugpreacha
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Message 108 of 300 (274996)
01-02-2006 1:20 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Theodoric
12-26-2005 2:49 PM


Re: prove it
Theodoric writes:

Actually it isnt up to me to prove it is not a miracle. It is up to you and those that profess it is to do the proving. YOu cannot prove soething is not. The onus is on those that claims something is sopmething to do the proving. YOu see here is the problem with a lot of this faith stuff. Fundies always insist on nonbelievers proving that soemthing isnt when those professing have to prove it is.

It is NOT up to us to prove it. You claim that every issue needs to be framed via empirical observations? I've got news for you---you and your ilk are not the final standard by which to judge the idiosuncracies of life.

This idea that science is the final arbitrator is simply not Gospel to me---any more than my Gospels mean anything to you.

However...

I will grant that there is much deceit and story-twisting in modern Faith based stories. I can appreciate a rational approach to such things---BUT---I will not accept or allow your skepticism, nor will the many believers around the world. If you think the way that you do, you are welcome to your belief....now go stand in the corner with the atheist skeptics and quite blathering on with you liberal atheism!


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Thugpreacha
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Message 110 of 300 (275025)
01-02-2006 3:02 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by Brian
01-02-2006 2:18 PM


Re: prove it
But the whole issue is what a miracle is....and you are attempting to frame a miracle in a verifiable empirical framework whereas I am attempting to assert that a miracle can be relative to an individual.

Besides....even if miracles were objective, there still is no way to "capture" the essence of a claimed supernatural event.

I need not prove anything to anyone...and they, if they wish, can make jokes about I.P.U.'s and Bigfoot.


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