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Author Topic:   Ken Ham's Creation Museum
iceage 
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Message 97 of 129 (400347)
05-12-2007 2:05 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by Buzsaw
05-08-2007 9:43 PM


Evidence
Buz writes:
The evidence is that man of all cultures has had a religious bent since records have been kept. Imo, that is idicative that there is a spiritual dimension in the universe and that venues of observing alternatives to secularism are good for study and observation of what exists.
This argument is usually phrased as "Thirst is evidence of water". However one could as easily say:
The evidence is that man of all cultures has had a *musical* bent since records have been kept. Imo, that is indicative that there is a *musical* dimension in the universe
Probably not. Musical ability and appreciation is purely a human trait, as is the desire to "worship" a god being. The more primitive impulses anthromorphize this god being and the worship includes some form of sacrifice.
Buz writes:
alternatives to secularism
Alternatives to "secularism" is superstition and ignorance. Study primitive cultures or the workings of theocracies, if you want to understand the full negative aspects of the opposite of "secularism" - religionism.
Buz writes:
Likely there is some things in Ham's place that will allow for folks to observe where Ham's kind come from and why they interpret the evidence differently than secularists.
"Creation Science" does provide good working examples of logical fallacies. Further "Creation Science" is an interesting study on just how stubborn and how far people can purposefully misinterpret readily observable data, in order to support preconceived belief systems.
Edited by iceage, : No reason given.

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Message 112 of 129 (404828)
06-10-2007 12:30 AM
Reply to: Message 111 by Zhimbo
06-09-2007 10:32 PM


Re: Great photo tour!
Wow that is quite the tour. I love the way they sneer at books and learning. Yeah lets all go back to the bronze age .... ah the good ole days.
I noticed on one of their poster boards with the title
"Evidence of Flood in the Grand Canyon"
They list "Sea Animals Far Above Sea Level" including sponges and thick deposits of limestone as evidence.
What they do is list these bullets of evidence without explaining why it is evidence of a flood, I guess you are just to assume it is without asking questions, then again their clientle problem view asking questions of this nature as sinful - just believe.
Just how did those sponges transport themselves to the top mountains? Creationist quickly evoke "hydrological sorting" as the reason why trilobites never mix with dinos and dinos never mix with mammal fossils. Hmmm... but here we have sponges being transported to the very top of the geological column because I am guessing the chaotic flood waters. Any YEC care to explain.

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