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Author Topic:   Fundamentalists (of all stripes) at it again (Re: Textbook Wars: Religion in History)
Chiroptera
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Message 66 of 194 (282027)
01-27-2006 4:47 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Percy
01-25-2006 3:11 PM


Well, I don't want to seem like I support the white-washing of abuses and atrocities committed by the various religions or societies in human history, but I think this quote says quite a bit:
The Institute for Curriculum Services, a Jewish group set up in 2004 to scrutinize textbooks, was upset by the book's statement that archaeology and ancient Egyptian records don't support the Biblical account of the Exodus of the Israelite slaves from Egypt. While conceding this was true, the group said the book didn't apply the same skepticism to Islamic or Christian events, such as when it said that "ancient writings" and the Gospel according to Matthew relate that "wise men (probably philosophers or astrologers) followed a brightly shining star" when Jesus was born.
Others faiths do tend to be unjustly maligned, especially when compared to a "normal" faith like Christianity. So when
[h]indu groups, in particular, have swamped California authorities with proposed revisions, which would delete or soften references to polytheism, the caste system and the inferior status of women in ancient India.
While I would not want to eliminate references that traditionally Hinduism has supported very illiberal system in India, I have to ask whether these same text books explain how traditional Christianity supported aristocracy, a feudal class system, the killing of heretics, and an equally inferior status of women in Medieval Europe?
The complaints may have justification, even if I disagree with the requested remedies.

"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt

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Chiroptera
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Message 93 of 194 (282384)
01-29-2006 8:26 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by Percy
01-29-2006 7:55 PM


Re: Fundimentalism, as per message 1, is not just Christian fundamentalism
Indeed, although the word was originally self-description for a certain school of Protestant Christianity, anyone reading or watching the news for, say, the last two decades should be aware that the word is now used to describe similiar movements in all of the major religions.

"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt

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Chiroptera
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Message 159 of 194 (284636)
02-07-2006 4:04 PM
Reply to: Message 158 by randman
02-07-2006 4:00 PM


Re: Does seeking relief under the law=lobbying?
quote:
Evolutionists used the courts and media to get evolution accepted into school curriculums (Scopes-Monkey trial for example which was a test case).
Actually, the evolutionists lost that case. They won the appeal of the conviction on a technicality, but neither the case nor the appeal affected the Tennessee law.
That may not affect your point, though.

"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt

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Chiroptera
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Message 171 of 194 (284768)
02-07-2006 8:52 PM
Reply to: Message 170 by Buzsaw
02-07-2006 8:48 PM


Re: But Buz...
quote:
You missed my point and the point of the student, being that history students don't want to take a course in religion or philosophy to get the whole history story.
Are you sure you aren't making a hasty generalization based on anectdotal evidence? My personal (and anectdotal) experience is that students in history are well aware that they need a very broad understanding of the humanities and social sciences to understand their subject.

"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt

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