Understanding through Discussion


Welcome! You are not logged in. [ Login ]
EvC Forum active members: 73 (8962 total)
145 online now:
CosmicChimp, PaulK (2 members, 143 visitors)
Newest Member: Samuel567
Post Volume: Total: 870,726 Year: 2,474/23,288 Month: 665/1,809 Week: 97/225 Day: 0/28 Hour: 0/0


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   dBoard Version 1.0 is Released!
Admin
Director
Posts: 12657
From: EvC Forum
Joined: 06-14-2002
Member Rating: 3.8


Message 1 of 198 (171455)
12-25-2004 5:06 PM


The release of dBoard version 1.0 is complete. Please report any problems or bugs to this thread, or by email to Admin.

Replies to this message:
 Message 2 by jar, posted 12-25-2004 5:44 PM Admin has not yet responded
 Message 3 by Minnemooseus, posted 12-25-2004 5:55 PM Admin has responded
 Message 4 by JonF, posted 12-25-2004 6:06 PM Admin has responded
 Message 7 by Minnemooseus, posted 12-25-2004 6:28 PM Admin has not yet responded
 Message 11 by berberry, posted 12-25-2004 7:34 PM Admin has responded
 Message 15 by Adminnemooseus, posted 12-25-2004 9:06 PM Admin has responded
 Message 16 by Adminnemooseus, posted 12-25-2004 11:08 PM Admin has responded
 Message 17 by Lammy, posted 12-25-2004 11:15 PM Admin has not yet responded
 Message 18 by Lammy, posted 12-25-2004 11:41 PM Admin has not yet responded
 Message 20 by Ben!, posted 12-26-2004 3:31 AM Admin has responded
 Message 21 by Ben!, posted 12-26-2004 3:32 AM Admin has not yet responded
 Message 22 by Ben!, posted 12-26-2004 3:35 AM Admin has responded
 Message 23 by Ben!, posted 12-26-2004 3:50 AM Admin has responded
 Message 24 by Ben!, posted 12-26-2004 3:52 AM Admin has responded
 Message 25 by Ben!, posted 12-26-2004 3:59 AM Admin has responded
 Message 26 by Ben!, posted 12-26-2004 4:04 AM Admin has responded
 Message 27 by Ben!, posted 12-26-2004 4:05 AM Admin has responded
 Message 28 by Ben!, posted 12-26-2004 4:21 AM Admin has responded
 Message 29 by Ben!, posted 12-26-2004 4:24 AM Admin has responded
 Message 72 by Ben!, posted 12-28-2004 4:09 PM Admin has responded
 Message 74 by Ben!, posted 12-28-2004 4:11 PM Admin has responded
 Message 76 by Ben!, posted 12-28-2004 7:43 PM Admin has not yet responded
 Message 77 by Ben!, posted 12-28-2004 7:53 PM Admin has not yet responded
 Message 78 by Ben!, posted 12-28-2004 7:54 PM Admin has responded
 Message 79 by Ben!, posted 12-28-2004 7:58 PM Admin has not yet responded
 Message 80 by Ben!, posted 12-28-2004 9:05 PM Admin has responded
 Message 83 by Ben!, posted 12-29-2004 8:34 AM Admin has responded
 Message 89 by RAZD, posted 12-29-2004 10:36 PM Admin has responded

  
Admin
Director
Posts: 12657
From: EvC Forum
Joined: 06-14-2002
Member Rating: 3.8


Message 10 of 198 (171475)
12-25-2004 7:33 PM


The "disappearing topics" problem on the "All Topics" page, and the inclusion of ancient threads in topic lists of individual forums, should now be fixed. Please let me know if you continue to see this.


--Percy
EvC Forum Director

  
Admin
Director
Posts: 12657
From: EvC Forum
Joined: 06-14-2002
Member Rating: 3.8


Message 12 of 198 (171478)
12-25-2004 7:40 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by berberry
12-25-2004 7:34 PM


No problem - you couldn't have found this thread easily anyway, since it was buried by the bug. All bug reports are good! Thanks!

This message is a reply to:
 Message 11 by berberry, posted 12-25-2004 7:34 PM berberry has not yet responded

  
Admin
Director
Posts: 12657
From: EvC Forum
Joined: 06-14-2002
Member Rating: 3.8


Message 13 of 198 (171479)
12-25-2004 7:49 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Minnemooseus
12-25-2004 5:55 PM


Re: This topic disappeared from the "All Topics" list
ADMINNEMOOSEUS ADDS - Thanks for making all the URL's in my all topic database obsolete!

I have a Perl script that automatically converts the old URLs to the new URLs. If you email me a copy of it I'll convert it for you and email it back.

You may find we no longer need this list. If you go the All Topics page you'll see that the page numbers go up to 111, right back to the beginning of 2001!


--Percy
EvC Forum Director

This message is a reply to:
 Message 3 by Minnemooseus, posted 12-25-2004 5:55 PM Minnemooseus has not yet responded

  
Admin
Director
Posts: 12657
From: EvC Forum
Joined: 06-14-2002
Member Rating: 3.8


Message 14 of 198 (171480)
12-25-2004 7:57 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by JonF
12-25-2004 6:06 PM


Thanks for noticing this bug. The default for users who have not set the thread list order in their profile is now reverse chronological, which is what it used to be.

This message has been edited by Admin, 12-25-2004 19:57 AM


This message is a reply to:
 Message 4 by JonF, posted 12-25-2004 6:06 PM JonF has not yet responded

  
Admin
Director
Posts: 12657
From: EvC Forum
Joined: 06-14-2002
Member Rating: 3.8


Message 31 of 198 (171560)
12-26-2004 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Adminnemooseus
12-25-2004 9:06 PM


Re: The "Peek" function and the "Proposed Topics" archive
Hi Moose! Happy Holidays!

I've added the peek/Firefox bug to the list.

The Proposed Topics archives are something that I still have to work on. Archives used to translate the message data file into HTML, then delete the message data file, leaving the HTML as the only record. I have to write a script to translate the HTML back into message data files. The HTML files are still there, though perhaps not convenient for you, but look in:

http://www.evcforum.net/Images/Smilies/Forum30/HTML

Let me know if I can help you make sense of these, but once I do the translation back to message data files they should display as before. Problem is, that likely won't be soon.

dBCodes Help should be working now, thanks for finding this!

About your all topics database, I should still be able to translate an r2d database. Send me a copy so I can see if it's possible.


--Percy
EvC Forum Director

This message is a reply to:
 Message 15 by Adminnemooseus, posted 12-25-2004 9:06 PM Adminnemooseus has responded

Replies to this message:
 Message 32 by jar, posted 12-26-2004 12:29 PM Admin has not yet responded
 Message 36 by Adminnemooseus, posted 12-26-2004 1:00 PM Admin has responded

  
Admin
Director
Posts: 12657
From: EvC Forum
Joined: 06-14-2002
Member Rating: 3.8


Message 34 of 198 (171563)
12-26-2004 12:37 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Adminnemooseus
12-25-2004 11:08 PM


Re: The return of the dreaded "quote reply"
Adminnemooseus writes:

I note that we have the "quote reply" back. Remember what a mess is could and did cause back in the "good old days"?

The reply/quote is back on by accident, I'm turning it off now.

Also, haven't checked - Do the internal links to other topics/messages still work?

I translated the message data files yesterday, so they should work. Let me know, anyone, if you find problems.

Added by edit: Sticky/Pinned topics coming?

It's on the list, no timetable, though.

Your familiarity with the control panel, now called Board Central, is probably greater than anyone else's, so when you get a chance to look at it your feedback will be very valuable. Within a few minutes of me posting this you should see a link to Board Central in the links at the top of the page - it should be visible to all moderators, administrators and directors.


--Percy
EvC Forum Director

This message is a reply to:
 Message 16 by Adminnemooseus, posted 12-25-2004 11:08 PM Adminnemooseus has not yet responded

Replies to this message:
 Message 35 by jar, posted 12-26-2004 12:48 PM Admin has not yet responded
 Message 46 by AdminAsgara, posted 12-27-2004 12:14 PM Admin has responded

  
Admin
Director
Posts: 12657
From: EvC Forum
Joined: 06-14-2002
Member Rating: 3.8


Message 38 of 198 (171587)
12-26-2004 4:56 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by AdminAsgara
12-26-2004 12:41 AM


AdminAsgara writes:

Is it possible to archive old topics and still have old links work?

I ran a script that should have converted all the old links to threads and messages into the new form, so anyone who finds broken links should report them to me. Links to threads are always to page 1. Links to a specific page of thread, as has already been noted, are useless since users can have different settings for the number of messages per page. But links to messages are always in terms of the message number, and the software figures out the right page number for each user. If someone finds a case I'm not handling properly I'm sure it can be fixed.

About adding the signature while editing, thanks for finding this. It should now be fixed.

This message has been edited by Admin, 12-26-2004 16:56 AM

Yep, it's fixed!

This message has been edited by Admin, 12-26-2004 16:56 AM


--Percy
EvC Forum Director

This message is a reply to:
 Message 19 by AdminAsgara, posted 12-26-2004 12:41 AM AdminAsgara has not yet responded

Replies to this message:
 Message 39 by Adminnemooseus, posted 12-26-2004 5:41 PM Admin has responded

  
Admin
Director
Posts: 12657
From: EvC Forum
Joined: 06-14-2002
Member Rating: 3.8


Message 43 of 198 (171601)
12-26-2004 6:17 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Ben!
12-26-2004 3:31 AM


Re: Date/Time format in profile
Ben writes:

I changed it in my profile (from "US" to "international"), saved, then re-viewed profile.
The setting is back to the original.

(added in edit)

Good news is the actual functionality AND the "set" function in the profile seems to be working fine. I guess it's only the "get" function in the profile, for this one field, that is failing.

Makes sense?

It sure does. Good find! It was broken in the same way at Board Central - they should both be fixed now.


--Percy
EvC Forum Director

This message is a reply to:
 Message 20 by Ben!, posted 12-26-2004 3:31 AM Ben! has not yet responded

  
Admin
Director
Posts: 12657
From: EvC Forum
Joined: 06-14-2002
Member Rating: 3.8


Message 47 of 198 (171741)
12-27-2004 1:45 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Ben!
12-26-2004 3:35 AM


Re: image in signature.
Ben! writes:

Somewhere along the lines, I guess during my profile editing, my signature got messed up. It used to be (I think) just some HTML code, which included an image. Now I guess you were doing some dbCode / HTML conversion stuff, but apparently it didn't work out.

The problem with signatures should now be fixed. Please let me know if you have further difficulties.

Anyone who has updated their profile during the past couple days may have corrupted their signature. I have already fixed the signatures for Ben and Adminnemooseus. Anyone else who needs me to fix their signatures just let me know.


--Percy
EvC Forum Director

This message is a reply to:
 Message 22 by Ben!, posted 12-26-2004 3:35 AM Ben! has responded

Replies to this message:
 Message 75 by Ben!, posted 12-28-2004 7:14 PM Admin has responded

  
Admin
Director
Posts: 12657
From: EvC Forum
Joined: 06-14-2002
Member Rating: 3.8


Message 48 of 198 (171745)
12-27-2004 2:02 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Ben!
12-26-2004 3:50 AM


Re: Message display order
Sorry to be dumping so many things at you at once...

I am very grateful. I think finding bugs is wonderful.

1. If I go to "all topics" and click on the topic title, I'm brought to the first page, where I see the first 5 messages in reverse chronological order.

This is weird, and not useful behavior. If I have reverse order, I want to be taken to the last 5 posts, not the first 5 posts!

Not this week, but sometime soon we can have a dialogue about this. I tried to adhere to standard message board behavior (i.e., my understanding of how vBulletin, UBB, MyBB, YABB PowerBoad and EZBoard work), and I think I've captured it, but I could be wrong. I only have copies of maybe half these boards. I want improvements, but I don't want to run counter to what the general bulletin board user community has become accustomed to.

2. If I actually click on the last page for a thread with 22 posts, I'm not given the last 5 posts. I'm given the last 2 posts (22 mod 5 = 2). This is a little weird too.

Let me comment by using a specific example. Say there's a thread with 17 messages and the user is displaying 5 msgs/page. That means 1-5 on page 1, 6-10 on page 2, 11-15 on page 3, and 16-17 on page 4.

If we instead always had at least 5 msgs/ppage, that would put 13-17 on the last page, and it means that messages 13-15 would appear on both pages 3 and 4. I'm not arguing for or against this. I can see the advantages of having the most data possible on each page. On the other hand, I can see counter-intuitive aspects if we make an analogy to a book. What would you think if the last page of each chapter in a book was filled top to bottom, but the first portion was just a repeat of the last portion of the previous page? The analogy is imperfect because a webpage is not a book, and I draw no conclusions at this point.


--Percy
EvC Forum Director

This message is a reply to:
 Message 23 by Ben!, posted 12-26-2004 3:50 AM Ben! has not yet responded

  
Admin
Director
Posts: 12657
From: EvC Forum
Joined: 06-14-2002
Member Rating: 3.8


Message 56 of 198 (171791)
12-27-2004 7:55 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Ben!
12-26-2004 3:52 AM


Re: Smilies?
Ben writes:

When replying to a message, the help area on smilies is gone. Especially with the new smily icons, I wanted to check out what the new icons look like, if there's any new ones, and how to make them all.

The smilies legend is back and hopefully improved.


--Percy
EvC Forum Director

This message is a reply to:
 Message 24 by Ben!, posted 12-26-2004 3:52 AM Ben! has not yet responded

  
Admin
Director
Posts: 12657
From: EvC Forum
Joined: 06-14-2002
Member Rating: 3.8


Message 57 of 198 (171794)
12-27-2004 7:59 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Ben!
12-26-2004 3:59 AM


Re: "Members" page
Thanks for finding these member list problems. I've got them on my list, but won't be addressing them right away because I would like to rewrite the module, so it's not a trivial task.


--Percy
EvC Forum Director

This message is a reply to:
 Message 25 by Ben!, posted 12-26-2004 3:59 AM Ben! has not yet responded

  
Admin
Director
Posts: 12657
From: EvC Forum
Joined: 06-14-2002
Member Rating: 3.8


Message 58 of 198 (171795)
12-27-2004 8:00 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Ben!
12-26-2004 4:05 AM


Re: dbCodes help page
Ben writes:

I clicked on the "help" to get the dbCodes help when composing my reply (http://http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dBCodes.cgi). I got a 500 server error.

This should be fixed now.


--Percy
EvC Forum Director

This message is a reply to:
 Message 27 by Ben!, posted 12-26-2004 4:05 AM Ben! has not yet responded

  
Admin
Director
Posts: 12657
From: EvC Forum
Joined: 06-14-2002
Member Rating: 3.8


Message 60 of 198 (171798)
12-27-2004 8:13 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Ben!
12-26-2004 4:04 AM


Re: Old links in posts
Ben writes:

In old posts, sometimes people use links to other messages. I really never experienced these failing, but now some do. Maybe because you've changed some links / functionality?

I skimmed ahead in the thread, and I think there are a couple other messages about failing links of this type, and expressing concern about how links to thread pages could be accurate if users can each have a different number of messages per page. There are several points I should make:

  • Links to threads should always be to page 1 of the thread, so links to threads should never be a problem.

  • Links to messages are always in terms of the message number and never the page number, so the user will always be brought to the right message regardless of his "messages per page" setting.

  • There *is* a very real problem with some old links to thread message pages. Any pre-existing links to a page of a thread that wasn't page 1 and didn't have a message number were translated to be to the page number referred to *assuming* 15 messages per page. People created these kinds of links by copying the URL from the browser's address box. Obviously this translation was the wrong thing to do. I'll have to create another script that will translate these incorrect links into references to the first message of that page.

  • People will continue to copy the browser's address box URL to create links to threads and messages, so I'm going to change the page links that appear at the top and bottom of each page of messages to be in terms of message numbers.

I hope to get to all this soon, within a day or two.


--Percy
EvC Forum Director

This message is a reply to:
 Message 26 by Ben!, posted 12-26-2004 4:04 AM Ben! has responded

Replies to this message:
 Message 61 by Ben!, posted 12-27-2004 8:18 PM Admin has not yet responded

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2018 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.0 Beta
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2020