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mark24
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Message 9 of 72 (260828)
11-18-2005 5:07 AM


Welcome
Welcome, Randman, like crash, no complaints if your fair...

Mark


There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't
    
mark24
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Message 11 of 72 (260844)
11-18-2005 6:40 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by Brian
11-18-2005 5:33 AM


Re: Thanks for cheering me up!
It's OK, Brian, he won't read posts all the way down to moderate them anyway. :)
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mark24
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Message 39 of 72 (261088)
11-18-2005 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by AdminRandman
11-18-2005 5:56 PM


Re: biasness
randman,

It's up the forum members to make a choice. They can choose to try to understand their critics and engage their points, which sometimes occurs, or the evos here can present their canned arguments that we have heard ad nauseum and in which we unbelievers in ToE don't find convincing, and frequently never acknowledging the real issues raised.

That's the pot calling the kettle black. The last post you made to me you refused to engage, based on the false excuse that I had attacked the bible. Like that has anything to do with the rightness or wrongness of anything! Is this the action of someone who "engages their point"?

You also had the logical fallacy "ad hoc" defined for you, had it shown why your arguments met the standards in order to be fallacious, & then without any explanation or refutation, simply declared your arguments "sound". Is this the action of someone who "engages their point"?

I could list all of the other points you refused to to address along with their associated excuses, but time limits me. But please don't pretend, even to yourself, that you engage the points raised.

The pattern is that you make a crap argument, it's logical or evidential flaw is pointed out, then you enter evade mode.

As far as myself, perhaps I am too proud, but considering my background, education, etc

So why don't you understand that you need sound premises in order to infer a sound conclusion? Why don't you understand that if you lack knowledge of your premises, then your conclusion will be as poor as your premises? Why can't you supply references?

Mark

This message has been edited by mark24, 11-18-2005 06:39 PM


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mark24
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Message 43 of 72 (261097)
11-18-2005 7:11 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by randman
11-18-2005 6:46 PM


Re: biasness
randman,

Mark, this isn't the place, but if you want someone to respond and discuss something a scientific claim, you shouldn't resort to switching the topic. Maybe I over-reacted, but I am not interested in maintaining a discussion with someone that does that in the way you have.

I didn't switch the topic, all three of your explanations are logically fallacious, as described & unrefuted. In addition, one of your explanations is actually at odds with the bible, a partial irrelevance, but fun to see you resort to arguments that contradict your belief.

But this is exactly what I mean. I have just accused you of:

mark writes:

The pattern is that you make a crap argument, it's logical or evidential flaw is pointed out, then you enter evade mode.

And you fulfill the prophecy. You have no answer, so invent a bullshit excuse, & run away.

All the high falutin' talk of your education & intellectual integrity comes to nought. You always refuse to engage when you can't respond in a logical, reasonable way, which seems to be most of the time as far as I can see.

Mark

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mark24
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Message 47 of 72 (261111)
11-18-2005 7:39 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by randman
11-18-2005 7:17 PM


Re: biasness
randman,

This is the problem. To defend the stance, one must then go on to discuss the Bible on a science thread. Sorry, but there's no use continuing the discussion with you for that reason, imo.

My experiece, and I am learning, is that when evos resort to attacking the Bible when discussing a scientific fact

Firstly, for the umpteenth time, I haven't attacked the bible. In order to attack the bible I have to criticise it. But I haven't, I juxtaposed it against your explanation. Surely someone of your mighty intellect & education can see that? Secondly, just ignore it, it was a side point, just address the real issues. In not doing this you have drawn far too much attention to your blunder than was necessary.

Thirdly, why are my other points irrelevant because of a side comment made? Answer; they aren't, you just have no answer & are doing what you always do, squirm. Just an excuse.

Mark


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mark24
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Message 49 of 72 (261120)
11-18-2005 8:08 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by randman
11-18-2005 8:03 PM


Re: biasness
randman,

If it was a side point, know that your side point killed the argument. Live and learn.

The only lesson to be learnt is that you are serially capable of making the flimsiest of excuses of cutting & running to hide your own ignorance.

But the one that cuts & runs hands the victory laurels to his opponent. Live & learn.

Ooooh! It fits!

Mark


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