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Author Topic:   Buzsaw Permanently Suspended
Sylas
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Message 83 of 83 (196618)
04-04-2005 4:41 AM
Reply to: Message 81 by Admin
04-03-2005 10:47 AM


Re: Email from Buzsaw
Brief comment. Thanks buz, for your kind words.
Buzsaw has been, mostly, a gentleman in discussion. There are some things, however, he just does not get. He presents an "admonition" to allow ID creationists to post their own ideologies. But that is already perfectly in order. The only problem is that, being a debate forum, their ideas will get challenged. And creationists of any stripe can challenge the ideas of others as well.
But... and this is another thing buz never seemed to grasp ... a challenge does not mean simply "I don't believe it" or "It's not logical" (buz's favourite line). In a long thread, it is expected that there will be some substantive engagement. Criticism of a position based on something more than personal aversion or inability to accept. There is in this forum (and may this long continue!) an expectation that the ideal engagement is by appeal to empirical evidence in some way.
Buz's continual complaint... not always expressed in the concilliatory terms of his farewell email! ... was unfairness and bias. I think he was wrong in this. The guidelines are not being unfairly applied to any significant extent. It was also enormously frustrating that buz seemed to portray as some kind of victory when he could respond to every single line with "it's not logical". It has not a victory; it was buz's own most serious loss and failure that he was never able to get past his own presumptions and actually find a basis for judging what was and was not logical.
I don't mind if buz is allowed back or not. I can understand his loss of posting rights. If his generous nature (and he has that, for sure) was more consistent, it would be another thing. So I'm in the "don't care category" about buz's status. Not that I don't care about buz. I have enjoyed our exchanges, and thing that they have been worthwhile. I'm glad buz got something from them as well. I wish him nothing but the best.
But I understand also why he might have run out of rope as far as being a member of the board. I'm content to recognize reasons for, and against, permanent suspension or reinstatement, without having strong feelings for which way that should fall.
My strong feelings are to wish Buzsaw well, especially in those more important parts of life which go beyond a discussion board. Thanks Buzsaw... and all the best.
Sylas

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