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Author Topic:   Some help for the TC model
Joe Meert
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Message 76 of 84 (9699)
05-15-2002 8:20 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by Joe Meert
05-14-2002 1:36 AM


So TC here is something that is best explained in a uniformitarian sense and does not fit the flood model.
Cheers
Joe Meert

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Message 77 of 84 (9718)
05-15-2002 10:26 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Joe Meert
05-15-2002 8:20 PM


"So TC here is something that is best explained in a uniformitarian sense and does not fit the flood model."
--lol, taking advantage of me like that
, I must acknowledge that for now. Even though it doesn't mean too much because I don't understand it enough either way.
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Joe Meert
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Message 78 of 84 (9947)
05-18-2002 9:58 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by TrueCreation
05-15-2002 10:26 PM


Since you've gone on a posting rampage to other topics, I wanted to make sure this one did not drift too far off the page.
Cheers
Joe Meert

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Message 79 of 84 (9948)
05-18-2002 10:26 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by Joe Meert
05-18-2002 9:58 PM


"Since you've gone on a posting rampage to other topics, I wanted to make sure this one did not drift too far off the page."
--This thread isn't going anywhere, I had ordered the text on Geodynamics a couple days ago, its arival date is somewhere in the vicinity of the 28 of this month, though the given estimated dates of dilivery go all the way toward mid June. Books I had ordered from Half.com people have usually came quite quick though. So it should be here soon.
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Joe Meert
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From: Gainesville
Joined: 03-02-2002


Message 80 of 84 (10221)
05-22-2002 7:51 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by TrueCreation
05-18-2002 10:26 PM


quote:
Originally posted by TrueCreation:
"Since you've gone on a posting rampage to other topics, I wanted to make sure this one did not drift too far off the page."
--This thread isn't going anywhere, I had ordered the text on Geodynamics a couple days ago, its arival date is somewhere in the vicinity of the 28 of this month, though the given estimated dates of dilivery go all the way toward mid June. Books I had ordered from Half.com people have usually came quite quick though. So it should be here soon.

Since everyone seems to be in the bumping mood, why not?

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TrueCreation
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Message 81 of 84 (10654)
05-30-2002 2:45 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Joe Meert
05-22-2002 7:51 PM


I've got the book, it is fantastic
. I'll be doing a little bit of reading and I will then post something relevent soon.
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TrueCreation
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Message 82 of 84 (11270)
06-10-2002 3:53 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Joe Meert
05-22-2002 7:51 PM


--Joe Meert, I believe that I have evidently shown my tedious lack of knowledge in this area of geophysics, and have sufficed a somewhat defeat. This of course doesn't mean there isn't an answer, nor does it mean that I'm to dismiss this observation and its theoretical applications in physics for estimated sea-floor topography. My studies and research will continue in this question as well as now a wider spectrum in geodynamics is open to me. Since our sea-floor dynamics are so similar, there should be similar mathematical applications to produce what would be estimated sea-floor bathymetry. While I do now understand the solution, its constituent dependants such as the principle of isostasy, schematics in the cooling of the lithosphere, isothermics, other lithospheric dynamics, and such are not sufficiently clear and they still have components which need to be understood as well. Basically what I'm going to do is start from the beginning and work my way through rather than picking the data or stressfully asserting that I'll give you the answer soon. This is relatively new to me and is a great interest. Until I more understand these models and relationships, my hypothesis on them will be nothing more than subjective guesses. I leave your argument to the board and to anyone else with the geomechanical knowledge sufficient in understanding for intelligible discussion. I pleasantly withdrawl and suffice defeat with a grin on my face in the hopes that this science will soon be my understanding. While discussions may continue in related geologic subjects, If this one is continued, I'll watch from the sidelines.
--Cheers to you Meert
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Joe Meert
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Posts: 913
From: Gainesville
Joined: 03-02-2002


Message 83 of 84 (11278)
06-11-2002 1:13 AM
Reply to: Message 82 by TrueCreation
06-10-2002 3:53 PM


It's not about defeat, it's about learning and recognizing problems. That you are able to recognize the problem speaks volumes about your ability and sense to learn. It's truly scary to hear you say that you understand your limitations, I've never heard that from a creationist! On the other hand, your willingness to learn gives me hope that you will one day understand that science does not threaten the bible.
Cheers
Joe Meert

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Message 84 of 84 (11287)
06-11-2002 3:34 AM
Reply to: Message 83 by Joe Meert
06-11-2002 1:13 AM


"It's not about defeat, it's about learning and recognizing problems. That you are able to recognize the problem speaks volumes about your ability and sense to learn. It's truly scary to hear you say that you understand your limitations, I've never heard that from a creationist! On the other hand, your willingness to learn gives me hope that you will one day understand that science does not threaten the bible."
--I'm in full agreement, of course it may possibly have something to say about the way I interpret what or why it says what it says. I haven't a problem in being an OEC, I've just started from the YEC position and I'm going to see where its going to take me. I can always say that I believe in a young earth and such, but it is a lot tougher for me to say that it must be. There is simply too much out there I am not aware of. Maybe later on I might want to get back to this specific discussion on sea-floor topography estimates, but until I can have that reasonable discussion, its better if I just learn the material first
. Are you sure that it is 'scary', maybe flabbergasting is more appropriate
. It would be neat if you were my professor, but hey, you just might be, I'm thinking about the University of Florida and the field of Geodynamics and other related geologic areas of research.
--Also, I've been meaning to get a subscription to one or two nice science journals. I know that Nature and Science get alot of references, but I also would like a geology type research survey. Do you have any recommendations?
Cheers.
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