Can a vacuum exist?

If WIMP's and neutrino's exist and are passing through us and the planet at many thousands per second how can a vacuum exist? Isn't a vacuum a space absolutely devoid of matter?

More significantly vacuum fluctuations mean that matter is constantly being created and destroyed throughout space.True Vacuums cannot exist.

True vacuum does not exist... unless you are living in the Stargate SG-1 world.

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The Laminator

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Is matter really being created and destroyed or could there be an interaction between smaller particles that makes it look like that? If neutrinos, quarks and WIMP's are made of particles far smaller than we are now or may ever be capable of seeing does that mean they don't exist? I have a problem with rationalizing how something can be made from nothing.

It's really created, and destroyed, matter - I believe this has been proven experimentally, and theoretically. Matter, and anti-matter, are created at the same time exist for a tiny moment and then destroy each other. Other a given time period the energy remains constant, but down at the Quatum level it's boiling away.It's something to do with time and energy being a Heisenberg couplet, although I won't even pretend to understand Quantum Mechanics.

It seems to me that this is a very irrational planet. Part of the beings believe that some Great Omnipotent Diety created everything from nothing and the other part believe it created itself from nothing but no one (or very few) believe that Infinity Exists and that the matter that exists mearly changes size and form (is basically recycled) and has always existed. I know matter exists but I don't know what nothing is. It seems when beings reach a point where they can no longer prove their point that's where their belief system starts. And that goes for the scientific side too.

Nothing.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Well, yes, that's because the evidence points to a contradictory conclusion. We know the universe has expanded from a singularity over roughly 13.7 billion years ago. So any steady state model must be false.

Hi Jerry,
You have a good point here, If you ever read theoretical physics you will at some point begin to think these scientist are theologians. I believe that "Things" do exist and in the same breath do not. It is a concept all but impossible to wrap ones mind around. I believe that reality refuses to be pigeon holed so to speak. The more one tries to extract what reality is the more one finds there is a tremedous amount of activity a quantum froth if you will. As Mr. Jack stated QM is one subject that evades my grasp as well but I believe that at the quantum level humans will never be able to discern what makes up our physical reality, because it is not physical at some point "things" cease to be considered "things" and are more like potentials. I also believe that a vacum exist only in zero and curious enough that is the number used to describe God in some cultures. JMHO.

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"One is punished most for ones virtues" Fredrick Neitzche

It's not made from nothing. It's made from energy. In the subatomic universe, matter and anti-matter comstantly collide with each other all the time, creating and destroying matter in the process. Since energy can be found everywhere in the universe (theoretically anyway), energy is constantly destroyed to create antimatter and matter and, at the same time, matter and antimatter is being destroyed to create energy. So, it's not completely accurate to say that something is made out of nothing.Make any sense? If not, I'll explain some more.

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The Laminator

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I believe where I have trouble is with the word "destroyed". I do not know how something can be destroyed. I do believe it can be divided into smaller particles. If there is a sub-subatomic world or a sub-sub-subatomic world how would we ever know it. I believe it possible that quarks are made of many smaller particles that in turn are made of smaller particles. Thats just my opinion but then isn't QM and String and Inflation and basically most everything else just opinions? I don't believe any of them have been 100% proven.

QM is the most accurate scientific model ever developed. It's predictive capabilities surpass any other theory, ever. Sure it's not 100% proven, sure it's not the whole story - but it's pretty damn close - if you dismiss it's finding you're pretty much abandoning any hope of finding truth.Inflation has been proven. Ripples in the CMB prove it.

Lam
Is energy massless? You say it is found everywhere. Does it exist in totally empty space? But that would mean a total vacuum and with all of the neutrino's and WIMP's and who knows what else we don't yet know exists a total vacuum is impossible. Is it possible that energy is caused by the interaction between those kinds of things?

Energy and matter are just differerent forms of the same thing: E=MC²

Do you see light from the stars? That is energy. That energy came through space.Empty is a really nebulous word so I don't know if we can say empty space. But it is about as empty as can be imagined.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion