All that you wrote is a confirmation of circular thinking. You are only throwing up what you have leanrt. The answer is very simple. It is either YES or NO. You still have to answer my question.

Out of curiosity, is that post a cut and paste from Hindu scripture, or did you write it yourself?

Nevermind. It looks like almost all your posts are just cut and paste jobs from here:Universal Spirituality | Shri Datta Swami

What is soul or Atman or causal body? Is it the awareness present in the nervous system? Or is it the inert energy present in the brain? The concept of I exists in both. The egoism ”I’ exists as a pulse in the brain in the inert energy and the same pulse exists in nervous system being experienced. If you say that the soul is awareness, it is born every day and it dies every day. This is the soul from one angle, which is mentioned by Gita (Athachainam Nityajatam . ). Please note that this view is mentioned as an angle and is never condemned by Gita. From another angle, it is the inert energy present in the brain, which is eternal as mentioned in Gita (Ajo Nityah . ). Awareness in the nervous system is in the form of work. Inert energy in the brain is in the form of energy.In one angle the soul is specific work and in another angle soul is inert energy. Energy and work are inter-convertible and both are the same entity in different forms. Therefore, essentially it does not matter, whether you take the soul as work or energy. According to science even the matter is a form of energy only. Therefore, the gross body, which exists in deep sleep, is as good as the inert energy in brain or as good as the awareness in the basic sense in the nervous system. The gross body made of matter, the subtle body made of pulses (whether in the state of inert energy or in the state of awareness) and the causal body which is the inert energy in the brain or awareness in the nervous system are one and the same and come under one category called as creation.The condensed energy is matter. Work is another form of the same energy. A scientist does not distinguish these three states. These three are the different forms of creation and creation is different from creator. Your analysis of these three states is of no use because you are dancing only in the same medium of creation with out touching the creator. Creation itself is work. It is work of the God. The working material is energy or matter or both. Energy and matter are also different works of God only. God is unimaginable and the work is imaginable. The link between work and God is again unimaginable. The link between a person and work is imaginable because both person and work are imaginable. Thus, there is no example in this world to imagine the God or to imagine the link with His work. Only the work is imaginable through which you can be sure of the existence of God. Thus, this wonderful Universe, which is the work of the God, proves the existence of God but the analysis of Universe neither gives any information about God nor any information about the link of Universe with God. The Universe indicates the existence of God but neither gives the information of God nor the experience of God. After realising the existence of God, you can experience God through some item of the creation into which God entered. The best item of the Universe is the human being through which you can experience God and also clarify your doubts with God directly. If God exist in every human being, every human being should clarify your doubts. In fact since you are also one of the human beings and since God is in yourself also, you should clarify your own doubts, which means that you should not get any doubt and therefore no human being should have any doubt. Therefore, God enters into a specific human being only like Krishna or Jesus etc., who can alone clarify all your doubts and through whom alone you can experience God.

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At Thy Lotus FeetAnil AntonyUniversal Spirituality | Shri Datta Swami
Universal Spirituality for World Peace
antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org

We are not here to provide a container for spam.So far all of your posts have been absolutely nothing but the same spam you are posting all over the web. That is against the bord rules and guidelines.We are here to debate individuals, not for a continuing saga of cut&pastes.If you continue that practice your posting privileges will be suspended.

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so, this is a bunch of vapid gobby-gook then?
it sounds like you are making the recycled point that you have to believe in god to.. believe in god?
its the typical answer given to all skeptics by believers and will never be considered a real answer since it answers nothingwhat does this have to do with world religions really?

The essence of the statement is that, at anytime interested devotee will find a human form of Lord present on earth. In this way devotee is blessed with four fortunes. To see, to talk, to touch and co-living. Lord comes down to give His direct contact to the interested devotees.This human incarnation (lord in human form or Satgur not guru) is to be identified with the divine knowledge preached by Him. This knowledge will be special and cannot be preached by any human being. This divine knowledge induces devotion towards Him and bliss in the devotee. This is to be experienced by individuals and then judged without any biasing of caste, religion, creed, nationality, sex etc..

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At Thy Lotus FeetAnil AntonyUniversal Spirituality | Shri Datta Swami
Universal Spirituality for World Peace
antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org

When one is desirous of lord only without selfish intention, He will definitely find Him (human form) only. Our pious desire attracts Him and our selfish bad odour repels Him (Going to satguru is nor for erecting empires and dynasties on earth, in which case we are not eligible to go near to Him). Like any normal human being expects a Satguru, a Satguru expects a Sathsishya (who wants to serve Him without any desire).

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At Thy Lotus FeetAnil AntonyUniversal Spirituality | Shri Datta Swami
Universal Spirituality for World Peace
antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org

doesn't make it acceptable.For the last time.

One more and you will be suspended.

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Hello, dattaswami! Blessings and peace and all that good stuff!I have a question for you:What do you know about Sikhism?This is what I found out, and I pulled it from Wikipedia and another website, so I am unsure of its validity.Tell me what you think, dattaswami! ForbiddenEdited to remove my own lengthy cut n paste~~PhatThis message has been edited by Phat, 03-31-2006 11:35 PM

pHAT jesus told,I & Father Are Same, Son Of God, Messenger Of GodLet us analyse it;To a deserving devotee, Jesus told He and His father are one and the same. When Jesus saw a devotee who was slightly affected by jealousy and egoism, Jesus came down by one step saying that He was the son of the God. The word son is indicating that He is different from the God but the same spirit is present in both like the same blood in the father and the son. This means that He is different and smaller than the God but at the same time has the same essence. It is like the relationship between the mighty ocean and the tiny water drop. The father is major and the son is minor component. They resemble qualitatively but differ quantitatively. This is the visishta advaita of Ramanuja.When Jesus met a devotee who is fully bacterialised by jealousy and egoism He told that He was the humble messenger of God. This is the Dvaita of Madhva. Therefore the human incarnation will declare its level based on the level of the receiver. Mohammad told that He is the messenger of the Lord. Thus there is a gradual degradation of spiritual obedience and the gradual growth of jealousy and egoism. Jesus stands as a transition bridge between the Advaita of Krishna and Dvaita of Mohammad.

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At Thy Lotus FeetAnil AntonyUniversal Spirituality | Shri Datta Swami
Universal Spirituality for World Peace
antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org

I don't understand what you are saying at all. I cant quite understand your words, and I noticed that AdminJar has warned you about inserting cut and pastes from what someone else has written!If you are an honest man, and if this stuff is to be found elsewhere in a link, just give me the link and say nothing more. Don't attempt to blog the entire link here!I simply want to know if you have heard of Sikhism and whether or not you agree with their stated theogical philosophy!

To the rest of you, I know that I myself inserted the cut and paste on Sikhism, and I readily admit that I don't quite understand it. If anyone wants to pick this discussion up and discuss Sikhism, lets do so.Otherwise, maybe we should just close this thread down. What do you think, DG?

i have no idea about sikhism-anil

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At Thy Lotus FeetAnil AntonyUniversal Spirituality | Shri Datta Swami
Universal Spirituality for World Peace
antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org

That was an honest and refreshing reply, anil! Im impressed!Perhaps we all should stick to original thoughts and put aside our many internet source cut/pastes for now!Care to have a cup of tea with me?This message has been edited by Phat, 03-31-2006 11:32 PM