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Topic: Does Islam need a Reformation?
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MangyTiger
Member (Idle past 6374 days) Posts: 989 From: Leicester, UK Joined: 07-30-2004
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Re: Context of "War" Verses.
many islamic nations allied with Hitler Could you give us a list of these many Islamic nations that allied with Hitler?
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MangyTiger
Member (Idle past 6374 days) Posts: 989 From: Leicester, UK Joined: 07-30-2004
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The many versus the one
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many islamic nations allied with Hitler Could you give us a list of these many Islamic nations that allied with Hitler?
Almost all of your reply to this is either about individuals or what happened after the war - jolly interesting and all that but absolutely nothing to do with answering the question I asked. After reading through all that the list of Islamic nations allied with Hitler is one (Iraq), right? A little more digging suggests that Iraq was allied with Germany for a period of a few months following a coup by an Iraqi nationalist who was motivated at least partly by a desire to end British influence in his country (the enemy of my enemy is my friend and all that). Never mind, you've got the first entry in your list. I'm still waiting for a list of many Islamic nations allied with Hitler.
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MangyTiger
Member (Idle past 6374 days) Posts: 989 From: Leicester, UK Joined: 07-30-2004
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Message 176 of 300 (227981)
07-30-2005 9:26 PM
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Reply to: Message 119 by jar
07-30-2005 9:36 AM
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Re: Not quite fair CK
Fanatics see what they want. They can be Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Aethist, Hindu, Buddhist or Agnostic. But not Apathetic  Sorry, after catching up on five pages of this thread in one go I couldn't resist...
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MangyTiger
Member (Idle past 6374 days) Posts: 989 From: Leicester, UK Joined: 07-30-2004
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Re: The many versus the one
Not just iraq, but the region that is now the West bank, Jerusalem and gaza Unless I'm very much mistaken that area wasn't a nation at the time. In fact it was part of the British Mandate Of Palestine granted by the League Of Nations (i.e. it was governed by Britain). Kind of hard to see how that can be considered a nation allied with Hitler. Still got a list of one.
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MangyTiger
Member (Idle past 6374 days) Posts: 989 From: Leicester, UK Joined: 07-30-2004
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Message 180 of 300 (227986)
07-30-2005 10:22 PM
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Reply to: Message 179 by jar
07-30-2005 9:57 PM
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Re: The many versus the one
You're right on all points jar. I just got ticked off when I saw the claim about many Islamic nations being allied with Hitler put out as a fact when I was pretty sure it wasn't true (and a quick bit of checking confirmed it). In fact I'm moderately sure that I can come up with a larger list of Islamic nations that sided with the Allies than did with the Axis. In the context of the thread topic it isn't important - there's some much whiffier BS being spread around elsewhere - so I apologise to all for the needless digression and I'll let it drop.
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MangyTiger
Member (Idle past 6374 days) Posts: 989 From: Leicester, UK Joined: 07-30-2004
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Re: The many versus the one
See my Message 180 to jar.
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MangyTiger
Member (Idle past 6374 days) Posts: 989 From: Leicester, UK Joined: 07-30-2004
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Re: The many versus the one
Sounds like you're so uncomfortable by the truth of what is being said, that you have grabbed onto to one small comment made in passing which was partially inaccurate, in order to irrationally defend against that which you simply do not want to know. The real question is: What is it about our culture that makes certain truths so unbearable? Actually if you look through my posting history you'll see I'm just a bit of a pedant.
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MangyTiger
Member (Idle past 6374 days) Posts: 989 From: Leicester, UK Joined: 07-30-2004
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Re: The many versus the one
jar beat me to it in pointing out the fact you had misquoted him (or did you just misinterpret what he said)? He was talking about groups, not nations. Despite the fact I'd said I'd let it drop I'm going to correct your latest mistake:
please note you've just agreed that Algeria and Egypt were also aligned with the Nazis. That makes three nations, plus the Arabs in the mandate. Algeria was ruled directly by France, then Vichy France and then the Free French during WWII. Egypt was under British 'protection' (i.e. full of British and Empire troops). Neither of them was indpendent enough to ally with the Nazis. Oh by the way thousands of Arabs in the Mandate signed up to fight with the British in WWII, so we have to count them as split. Now I've said I'll let this drop because it's not important in terms of the overall thread - but I'm also a bit of a pedant, so if you keep trying to score cheap points with dubious facts or misrepresntations of what people say I will just keep coming back.
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MangyTiger
Member (Idle past 6374 days) Posts: 989 From: Leicester, UK Joined: 07-30-2004
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Re: The many versus the one
None of the above. A pretty good description of the common English usage (as in used in England, not as defined in the nearly common language we share) is in the Wikipedia entry:
Some pedants are simply nit-pickers, people who are annoyed by what they see as egregious errors. They take no pleasure in correcting your mistakes, yet they cannot let such mistakes go uncorrected. The sentence which follows that line doesn't apply to me however
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MangyTiger
Member (Idle past 6374 days) Posts: 989 From: Leicester, UK Joined: 07-30-2004
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Re: The many versus the one
I'm not at all "uncomfortable with all the major points of this thread", I have made no comment on them as far as I recall (but I have read them all). I simply saw a mistake and attempted to correct it. Just out of interest when did you get your degree in remote physcoanalysis (that question doesn't require an answer by the way)?
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