The Blasphemy Challenge

Because you keep insisting that things that happened in the past were immoral? Either they were, and we hadn't realized it yet, or they weren't, because we hadn't learned this yet. If you choose the latter, you admit that there IS something to be learned which is beyond wht HAS BEEN learned.Which is better;Slavery USED TO BE right, now is not, and may be again, or;
Slavery NEVER was right, and never will be, no matter what we learn? It was never my denial, it was a denial on the part of the proclaimant. Sooooooooooooo, immorality is a mal-function, yet morality is not real. There is no way to actually tell who is 'mal-functioning' except by some weird general concensus about what is 'normal'. and 'normal' changes from generation to generation. A hero is not normal, and is therefore mal-functioning extremely, yet can not claim any more glory for his mal-function than a criminal can claim guilt. And higher forms do? Well, duh. That means that atheism is not the natural state for humans, because we DO have 'god sense'. If you are comparing atheists to mosquitoes, as lower form of life, well, that is on you. As it stands, atheists have a 'god-sense' or they couldn't begin to deny God any more than a mosquito could.Edited by anastasia, : No reason given.

Good lord. Theism acknowledges God, atheism must use 'God' to say it does not believe in God. I am only asking for someone to come up with a word for people who don't need to put God in the equation at all. Ringo has...they are 'lower forms of life'. Things which have no 'god sense'.

Yes, the 'blasphemy challenge' has a long way to go. God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are the tip of the iceberg, and not even recognized as gods in every form of christianity. Indoctrinating someone to blaspheme? Blasphemy is not a doctrine in any religion. You are a great example of the ability to choose after-the-fact. Choice is always available. What we choose should never be the final answer. Like what? Fornication without guilt? I say people who don't believe miss out on the most beautiful expressions of art, poetry, music, and language that the human mind has ever been capable of. I would think it was normal, about the age of bar and bat mitzvah's, confirmations, etc, not the age of potty-training.

That makes noooooo sense because every person on the planet has had enough 'god-sense' to make a religion since the beginning of recorded time. You can't find a single culture that has not recognized some type of deity, and still claim to be human.

You claim to be human. You have a 'god-sense' or we wouldn't be having this discussion. There is no 'thinking' we do about it. Whether you think humans have a god-sense or not is bunk, because you are discussing one. So, is christianity a crutch or an indulgence, huh? You know, alcoholism is not learned, but genetic, so they say. If only they could find a gene which explains all of this 'unnatural' tendency towards religion, and quit focusing on the unnatural tendencies towards homosexuality. So, atheism is normal. Asexuality is normal. Amorality is normal. We are all mal-functioning minorities. I will remember this. But the ones in this topic DO, and if atheism wants to have a name for itself, it will speak out against these outrages. Where are all the atheists who denounce having to mention a God they don't believe in?Edited by anastasia, : No reason given.

Ok, so now the Bible is not the only thing inspired by God, but also art?I do make a claim for art...it is an expression of an ideal. The human mind has to leave its petty survival instincts behind to contemplate something which is beautiful. You may not recognize God, but you surely must recognize something beyond reality to fully appreciate art.

As far as I know, OCD is strictly Catholic. it is the Order of Carmelites Discalced, the Barefoot Carmelites, of which I was a member. If you mean OCD, as in; obsessive cumpulsive disorder, you are making my point very relevent. You think that religion is a mal-function, and are thus very close to the Hitler mentality that the Jews were genetically defficient.

I think so. We seem to be having the most difficulty teaching each other not to be, and not learning, so it must be natural to stick up for our own tribe.

YOU are the one who said there was a 'god-sense' in higher life-forms. Choice, please? Crutch or indulgence? The OP, come on now. But let's make our own 'challenge'.I challenge anyone on this board to deny God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. Please review the OP.

Crash, I have been there. I have listened to music for its own sake, and have found so much beauty that I could not out a finger on it. I was an artist, and a poet, and I was forced to realize that the only way to define beauty is God. You may certainly partake, but my original idea was that to shut yourself from religion was to shut yourself off from understanding so much of the symbolism of art. It was a question, a choice. Crutch, or indulgence? I have heard about as many believers claim that religion gets them by as I have heard alcoholics claim drink gets them by. But religion, like alcohol, may be a simple pleasure enjoyed by the eclectic. Been there, done that as well. Shrooms con't compare.

There is none, as there is none in the 'blasphemy challenge'.Btw, you failed.

No, not really. The rosary is said to be from St Dominic, in an apparition. You can check him for OCD if you wish, or Mary. Stations of the cross in no way qualify as an obsession, are not the norm, or the requirement in christianity, or catholicism.

And yes, 'god-sense' is not natural.Edited by anastasia, : No reason given.

Until you show me who you nominate as the originator of the rosary, I'm sticking with St Dominic.

I don't claim dominion over anything, Crashfrog. All that I am saying is that I love the history of my religion, the art, the music, the language, and that I would not choose to be without this.