Why Would God Care?

No, Dan....we are no more important in the grand scheme of things than refrigerator mold! Go ahead and make all the kids you want. You can be proud of your special little rugrats in the context of your own feelings...as if refrigerator mold ever had any feelings!We are nothing to God. Thats a cool philosophy! In fact, lets take God out of the theory! We are nothing and yet deep down, we think that we are evolving into some rather special mold, if we say so ourselves!

Yep...and that includes the First one...that we are to love the Lord with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength! If little Jimmy realized this, he would be thinking less of Suzy 24 hours a day and focus his passions on the Deity! I'm sure that God overlooks the daily wank or two when little Jimmy is growing and learning to fulfill his destiny. Its when Jimmy buys the SI Be'once edition and spends every waking moment worshiping scantily clad women that the Deity may realize that Jimmy will never worship Him and instead will worship women until he makes himself a family, gets married, and spends the rest of his life making a hundred thousand dollars a year and worshiping football on Sundays, alcohol when available and that elusive bag of skunk weed that he and his wife smoke before having sex on Friday night!The second commandment, Love thy neighbor as thyself, also goes out the window when Jimmy, now grown and making a hundred thou a year, pretends to care about the rest of humanity by recycling his bottles and cans, voting Democratic, and joining together with the other educated elite of the world and affirming that we make our own purpose in life! Viva Humanity!

It makes perfect sense to someone who honestly doesn't believe that God ever could exist or..if God did exist that He would be concerned with us individually.If we are indeed a virus with shoes, it would justify the fact that we raped this planet of natural resources and are now searching the heavens for another place to trash. The problem with many people is that they have no idea how nice God actually is and how approachable he is. Any good Father is never too busy for their kids!God took a nanosecond to make a rock so big that He couldnt lift it...had a good laugh...then uncreated the same rock and looked at his laptop. Seeing little Jimmy busily pounding away, God knew that boys would be boys, yet He was concerned that Jimmy was gratifying his carnal desires so continuously.In fact....as God scanned the humans, He noticed that everyone was ignoring their spiritual development and were instead stuffing their faces with food, pulling levers on slot machines like lab rats, watching each other, and busily wasting away their waking moments serving themselves!If you were God, what would you do? Let the mold do its thing? Eliminate the mold? OR....perhaps you may foreknow that these humans may someday catch the vision that endless pursuits of pleasure for pleasures sake is not the best way to fulfill their collective destiny.

Lets look at the big picture, Dan. Basically, humanity can either worship itself or worship something outside itself. We are intensely loyal on a micro level. Parents love their kids to death! They become quite competitive around other parents, however. We thus have the "keep up with the Jones" mentality and have become a consumer driven society.Then lets look at our country. We can gush altruism all we want, but a deeper look will reveal that we compete with the rest of the world for the right to have the cheapest gas and the means to keep up with the Jones. Globally, even assuming that humanity overcame our competition
among ourselves, we would still seek to ensure our survival and comfort above that of any other aliens in the universe.Humans are selfish by nature!We make our own commandments.

I think I agree. Would it not be true that everything we do effects our neighbors, though?

If Jimmy buys too many naughty magazines, he is supporting the lifestyle of Larry Flynt, or whoever the seller is. I already said that God is less concerned with the action as with the overall focus of Jimmys passion. Humanity can either be passionate towards ourselves or towards something greater than ourselves. Its a daily choice.BTW I don't mean to suggest that we regress and go back to killing off our fatted calves and laying them at the temple altar.The idea of giving is a good thing.I'm just suggesting that IF society became altruistic as a unit, would we truly be selfless ambassadors for the universe? Or...being the refrigerator mold that we are, would we still have that deep-seated survival of the fittest mentality and look no higher than self preservation as an ultimate ideal?

I thought the whole question was whether God would care if Jimmy was wasting his time.I'm pointing out that if humanity seeks to pleasure itself, are we collectively wasting our time. And I am talking about the highest ideal that we seek to strive towards.

Quite honestly, much of what I tentatively believe was taught to me. Not all of it, though. The core anchor of my belief is the times that I honestly believe that i have communed with Gods Spirit. I only regret that I cannot prove it to you, but perhaps its better for you to arrive at your own conclusions.Its also good for us to discuss these things openly with others. How boring and mundane it would be if everyone on Earth meekly agreed and sang choir hymns 24/7 while dressed in shiny white robes. Then again, we have no real idea what the future communion with God will be like aside from what we have read and what others patiently attempt to indoctrinate us with! Come to think of it, that makes sense when you consider that God can create endless resources and according to the Bible He is all too happy to Bless His children with them. The issue is when there are limited resources and some humans think they have dibs on most of them.

quote:

---

perhaps you may foreknow that these humans may someday catch the vision that endless pursuits of pleasure for pleasures sake is not the best way to fulfill their collective destiny.

---

OK...back to square one.

Imagine that you think as God would think. Why would you be concerned with trivial actions that humans make?
My answer would be that humans are important to me....seeing as how I foreknew that a incarnation of my Spirit would one day communicate with humanity. I honestly can admit, however, that it is bruising to my individual Ego to think that I was created (or even evolved) for no special purpose other than to have fun, eventually mate with a woman, and have kids whom were my spittin image and who I taught to do the same thing I did. It just seems so pragmatic and non sensational.

That may be why God is so pissed. (If He in fact is.. )He wants us to be little versions of Him running around...and we want to do our own thing instead!Think about it. If you as a human Dad somehow had the ability to make your kids obey you and do whatever you wanted them to do and be whatever you wanted them to be, would you force your will on them?Edited by Phat, : add by edit

Thats one way to look at it...
BOOMING VOICE: Run Alongest, O Children And never Forget The Things That I taughteth!ADULT: OK, Lord! Thanks for not smiting me those nights I came home drunk! And thanks for eternal life, too! That was great! I'll see you when I die! *Grins and waves*NOW MORE SOMBER VOICE: How could I have forgotten to tell him that he needs to be plugged into the right source! He never did understand what was wrong with the whole independent spirit thing! *Beckons to His eldest Son* Jesus! Go fetch him!JESUS: Father, why not just send the comforter?GOD: OH! Thats right! With the Holy Spirit eternally with them, my children will always have the option of plugging in to the family jewels! They will never become spiritually lost and confused! Of course, why am I using this simpleton to type the obvious on a keyboard? I AM GOD! I have no need of a computer or a cellphone!Authors Disclaimer: No Booming Voices were heard nor animals harmed in the making of this script.
Responsibility for proper use of the Holy Spirit is the responsibility of the wearer. God assumes no responsibility for failed marriages, addictions of any kind, or defects of character. Edited by Phat, : spelling...I am NOT God!

You are presupposing that God is a product of the human imagination. That is not the summation of my beliefs, but I'll go with James Mason for the sake of argument.We must, of course, assume that this God 7.0 version that you have created is the same God as the one who foreknew us and who imagined/created us long long before the first humans were anywhere near capable of imaging/creating Him.(or Her..for all you jabberwocks) I think that the analogy falls apart when it equates human awareness of ants with Gods awareness of humans. God would know the thoughts of each human...would know the number of hairs on the head and ulcers in the stomach. We, on the other hand, know very little about the ants unless we are scientists who specialize in insect study. Even then, we don't know what the little buggers are capable of thinking...aside from work work work and serve the Queen! We don't really know what is important to God, but many of us believe that loving and communing with Him and loving and serving our neighbors rates pretty high. As for the attention to the smaller details of the universe, we can well imagine that God is certainly capable of handling such a task....whether or not He is interested in doing so.

First of all, humans don't love ants. God loves humans.Was what I was taught wrong? That God knows my littlest thoughts and fears...and that He knows the number of hairs on my head?

I looked it up on Clusty. I was always taught that everyone sins. The issue is why God would or would not care.
Sin, to me, always meant separation. In that context, every action that we do on a daily basis has meaning.I suppose the question could be meaningful to whom?I mean...lets assume God could care less. Then what do we have?

Its not a matter of God being insecure. Would God care what we think? Gee...does a parent care what their kids think?Personally, I would be concerned if my kids played violent video games that had murders and rapists in a virtual world than if my kids hung out at the library. I probably wouldn't be so concerned about them touching themselves as long as they didn't isolate from normal development, though.Edited by Phat, : spell

In one sense, i can see that God is big enough to be unaffected by our behavior..in that perhaps He/She wants us to grow up and be responsible for our own choices. That does not mean that God is incapable of lending a helping hand out of a ditch once in awhile. After all...would you turn your back on your children?