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Author Topic:   Deism in the Dock
Itachi Uchiha
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From: mayaguez, Puerto RIco
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Message 68 of 270 (415576)
08-10-2007 11:05 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by RAZD
08-09-2007 7:21 PM


Re: As the resident Deist ...
quote:
Not a problem - it's hard not to offend people when you call them out on the logic of their position.
Essentially the question comes down to "is there a god of any kind or not?"
The atheist decides that there is not, in spite of this being a logically invalid conclusion.
The deist decides that there is, in spite of this being a logically invalid conclusion.
The agnostic makes no decision -- in essence concluding that the jury is still out on the question. This is the only logically valid conclusion (which should answer your question why they exist).
The theist decides that there is, in spite of this being a logically invalid conclusion, but they also feel they need to reinforce this by adopting a convenient religion, as this frees them from facing the fact it is a just a choice.
I completely agree. Thats why I became an agnostic after years of being a YEC. Mostly it was physical hardships that after months of prayers nothing happened but things got better as soon as I went to the doctor. Technically speaking, God made me agnostic by ignoring those and other prayers. I haven't completely shifted towards atheism because theres something inside of me that bends towards faith (maybe ill become a deist someday instead of a theist again) but i must admit i am in a process of finding some answers so I came here to learn. I used to be active here a few years ago back when I was a flag waving YEC but times have changed

Mangekyo Sharingan. Youre trapped in my genjutsu now!

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Itachi Uchiha
Member (Idle past 5636 days)
Posts: 272
From: mayaguez, Puerto RIco
Joined: 06-21-2003


Message 72 of 270 (415594)
08-11-2007 12:41 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by jar
08-10-2007 11:37 PM


Re: As the resident Deist ...
yep thats me. you recognized me eh! Can you help me with the merging of accounts thing

Mangekyo Sharingan. Youre trapped in my genjutsu now!

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Itachi Uchiha
Member (Idle past 5636 days)
Posts: 272
From: mayaguez, Puerto RIco
Joined: 06-21-2003


Message 74 of 270 (415596)
08-11-2007 12:43 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by Omnivorous
08-11-2007 12:05 AM


Re: Agnostics Rule
quote:
We agnostics are more loyal to logic than either the atheist or deist/theist camps: any God or "ultimate reality" is unknown and probably unknowable.
The rest of you just like to choose sides and pick fights.
Extremists, all of you--true believers, every last one.
Amen brother

Mangekyo Sharingan. Youre trapped in my genjutsu now!

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Itachi Uchiha
Member (Idle past 5636 days)
Posts: 272
From: mayaguez, Puerto RIco
Joined: 06-21-2003


Message 75 of 270 (415597)
08-11-2007 12:44 AM
Reply to: Message 73 by jar
08-11-2007 12:43 AM


Re: As the resident Deist ...
youre not an admin no more?

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