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jar
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Message 3 of 161 (394675)
04-12-2007 6:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Nuggin
04-12-2007 5:29 PM


is the topic the one in the title
What question are you asking. The statement in the title is totally different than what is in the body of your OP.

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Message 13 of 161 (394714)
04-12-2007 8:39 PM
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04-12-2007 5:29 PM


a few things to consider
If GOD exists, then She exists regardless of any evidence that He does not exist.
If GOD does not exist then It does not exist regardless of any evidence She does exist.
If GOD exists, the Reality of GOD is as it is regardless of the Gods of any religion.
The Christian God, like the Norse Gods or the Greek Gods or the Judaic God or the Muslim God or the Hindu God(s) or the Egyptian Gods or all Gods ever known, are constructs of humans, not the reality "GOD"; Maps not the Territory. They are human attempts to describe that which is beyond description, attempts to understand that which is beyond understanding.

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jar
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Message 19 of 161 (394734)
04-12-2007 10:13 PM
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04-12-2007 9:18 PM


Re: a few things to consider
I'm not asking for everyone's personal opinion on the subject, I'm challenging Fundies to explain their ongoing hypocracy
Then fix your friggin topic title.
And if you believe what I posted is a copout, then present your best argument in support of your position.

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Message 50 of 161 (394961)
04-14-2007 11:05 AM
Reply to: Message 49 by Nuggin
04-14-2007 3:00 AM


you keep saying things that are simply wrong.
The question is not "do Christians acknowledge that there is divine power by any name?", the question is "why do Christians insist that given then exact same data, their conclusion is absolutely right and all other conclusions deserve death."
I'm sorry but in addition to being silly, that statement is demonstrably false.
Once again you are making the same mistake as the Christian Cult of Ignorance, and ascribing to all Christians that really refers to only some Christians.
The problem I see with your concept presented in this thread is that it is so close to being something worth discussing, yet you seem to insist in classic fundie fashion on constantly bringing it back to irrelevancies and false premises.
The question "Why do some people hold concept of 'God' as something exclusive to them?" might well turn into an interesting topic though.

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jar
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Message 53 of 161 (394989)
04-14-2007 1:21 PM
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04-14-2007 1:15 PM


Re: you keep saying things that are simply wrong.
You keep typing Christians and as a matter of fact, DID type the word all as the qualifier for your assertions. Please look at the thread title.
When you use ALL in the title of the thread, the presumption is that is actually what you mean.
I can only respond to what is there. If you do not mean all Christians when you use the term Christians, then please add some other qualifier such as "some" or "a few" or even "many".
If you will read some of my threads here you will find that should you actually use such qualifiers, we might even have an area of agreement.

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jar
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Message 117 of 161 (395896)
04-18-2007 10:53 AM
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04-18-2007 1:08 AM


Re: Good point
Man, you guys gotta get on the same page.
I've got two completely oposite answers on two different threads. You're claiming that Christianity changes through time while Jj is saying that it can not, will not, has never and will never change one bit.
Maybe you two should form a thread of your own.
Man, you guys gotta get on the same page.
I've got two completely oposite answers on two different threads. You're claiming that Christianity changes through time while Jj is saying that it can not, will not, has never and will never change one bit.
Maybe you two should form a thread of your own.
Well jj seems to still be in the very early stages of learning anything about Christianity from a historical perspective. When it comes to facts though, it is quite obvious that "Christianity" is constantly changing and evolving. The very existence of something called "The Reformation" is adequate evidence that Christianity does change.
There also is the basic issue of "Authority". Your statement seems to be the classic fundamentalist cry for authority, for someone to tell you what to think.
There is no need for them to get on the same page. Unless you wish, like so many Christians seem to wish, for some Authority to tell you what you should think, you are perfectly capable of making up your own mind. Consider the opinions of Anastasia and jj, but also look at the evidence available.

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Message 150 of 161 (432978)
11-09-2007 12:49 PM
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11-09-2007 12:28 PM


Come on Raph
People had experiences with Zeus and Thor as well. How are those experiences any different than the tales from Christian or Jewish Folklore? Heracles himself was a son of Zeus and Helen was one of his daughters. How can you overlook such contacts?

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