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Author Topic:   Should those of religious faith be allowed to run this country?
mick
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Message 56 of 308 (214693)
06-06-2005 2:05 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Faith
06-06-2005 1:36 PM


Re: Big topic, religion and government
Hi Faith
faith writes:
This is not about people, it's about ideas, beliefs, ideologies. One can certainly respect people no matter what they believe, but if they believe that you should be dead because you refuse to accept their ideology, then respecting them may not sanely include trusting them very far
I think that's a bit of a dangerous suggestion. It seems to be the political class of the US who want to make Muslims suffer, rather than vice versa. There are plenty of Muslims who are quite as patriotic to the US as Christians are. I don't think that Islam prevents one from being a good US citizen. For example there is the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a civic rights organization operated by American citizens. These people are concerned with documenting and trying to prevent "unreasonable arrests, detentions, searches/seizures and interrogations". They aren't trying to take over the country, and certainly aren't trying to kill anybody. All they are doing is trying to hold up the US constitution for all of its citizens regardless of religion.
Anyway, i thought you would enjoy the link.
Best wishes,
Mick

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mick
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Message 63 of 308 (214718)
06-06-2005 3:20 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by Faith
06-06-2005 2:12 PM


Re: CAIR
faith writes:
CAIR is the most clever propaganda organization for violent jihadists there is. Even moderate pro-Muslim groups know CAIR is a front.
A front for what?

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mick
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Message 65 of 308 (214734)
06-06-2005 3:52 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by Faith
06-06-2005 3:24 PM


Re: CAIR
Yes, I got the impression they were islamists
but jihadists? are you sure? You may well be right, but it seems unlikely. I'm not sure I believe in jihadists.

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mick
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Message 251 of 308 (215394)
06-08-2005 3:56 PM
Reply to: Message 247 by CanadianSteve
06-08-2005 3:47 PM


Re: More on Wahabbis
CanadianSteve writes:
you will find through google references to the Saudis, who are Wahabbi, financing North American mosques and educating imams.
a neat circle of idiocy! The torturing violent anti-democracy Saudi regime is funded by American taxpayers, and in return the Saudi Wahabbi sects pour their bile back into the US polity. Poetic justice?

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