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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
she's been flexible on the YEC bit before Fair enough.
a "millenia" is a thousand years. Yeah, I know. So if the Earth is only 6,000 years old, "a few millenia" would be at least half of all time. "We had survived to turn on the History Channel And ask our esteemed panel, Why are we alive? And here's how they replied: You're what happens when two substances collide And by all accounts you really should have died." -Andrew Bird
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
A "few millennia" is three or four wouldn't you say? Well the planet goes back six, and marriage as well -- back to Eden -- so what is all this carrying on about my being "flexible" about my YEC position?
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
A "few millennia" is three or four wouldn't you say? Yes. So, as I say directly above your post, a "few millenia" would be, in the eyes of a YEC, at least half, if not a majority, of all time.
so what is all this carrying on about my being "flexible" about my YEC position? *shrugs* RAZD said you were flexible about it. If so, fair enough... my point's irrelevant. "We had survived to turn on the History Channel And ask our esteemed panel, Why are we alive? And here's how they replied: You're what happens when two substances collide And by all accounts you really should have died." -Andrew Bird
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
But I'm not flexible. I believe in 6000 years as the age of the earth. I just don't understand why you thought there was something odd about my remark about a few depraved cultures in a few millennia.
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
But I'm not flexible. Okay. RAZD was wrong.
I just don't understand why you thought there was something odd about my remark about a few depraved cultures in a few millennia. Because you seem to be saying "a few millenia" as if it's a drop in the bucket. But if gay marriage has been around for the majority of time, then statements about how your definition of marriage has the weight of history on its side fall a little flat. "We had survived to turn on the History Channel And ask our esteemed panel, Why are we alive? And here's how they replied: You're what happens when two substances collide And by all accounts you really should have died." -Andrew Bird
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Because you seem to be saying "a few millenia" as if it's a drop in the bucket. But if gay marriage has been around for the majority of time, then statements about how your definition of marriage has the weight of history on its side fall a little flat. An extremely rare incidence of gay marriage only shows the fallen nature of the human race, while the vast majority case being hetero marriage demonstrates that that's the norm. A few millennia puts it since the Flood anyway. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
An extremely rare incidence of gay marriage only shows the fallen nature of the human race, while the vast majority case being hetero marriage demonstrates that that's the norm. You wanna go for numbers cool. I'm always up for a good appeal to popularity. But you might want to leave duration of time off that argument.
A few millennia puts it since the Flood anyway. Wasn't that when the really freakin' wicked were wiped off the planet? "We had survived to turn on the History Channel And ask our esteemed panel, Why are we alive? And here's how they replied: You're what happens when two substances collide And by all accounts you really should have died." -Andrew Bird
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3990 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
Faith writes: A "few millennia" is three or four wouldn't you say? Well the planet goes back six, and marriage as well -- back to Eden Adam and Eve got married?! Did they have a church wedding or a civil ceremony? Did they need permission from the government?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Adam and Eve got married?! Did they have a church wedding or a civil ceremony? Did they need permission from the government? I said that marriage is done in different ways, by different customs in different places. In Abraham's day IIRC I think the man simply took the woman into his tent and that was acknowledged by the community as his marrying her, and completely binding on them from that time on. If homosexuals want to marry each other among their own friends and leave the government completely out of it, that's fine by me. It's on their head then, not the nation's head. The problem is the official government community sanction bit. And if they're doing it for the rights and percs, find another way to get those rights and percs than marriage. Mat 19:4-6 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made [them] at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. Mar 10:6-9 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1432 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
But I'm not flexible. I believe in 6000 years as the age of the earth. And yet when we talk about evidence for an old earth as in
Exploring the Grand Canyon, from the bottom up.or Age Correlations and an Old Earth: Version 1 No 3 (formerly Part III) You seem to have some {excuse\explanation} for how the years don't count the same or for why you just refuse to deal with the evidence. I also believe that at one time you said you were not completely wedded to the 6000 years, but I could be mistaken there ... could it be 6001? 6010? 6100? Where do you draw the line? we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmericanOZen[Deist
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
It's on their head then, not the nation's head. The problem is the official government community sanction bit.
So to get to the point of the thread; is the christian god angry at the nations that give hindu (or any religion that is not christianity) marriages a "official government community sanction"? Just a monkey in a long line of kings. If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! *not an actual doctor
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3990 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
I said that marriage is done in different ways, by different customs in different places. Okay. But I'm genuinely curious--what form did Adam & Eve's marriage take? Were they made married at the moment of Eve's creation, at their expulsion from the Garden, or somewhere in between, say, rolling in the holy clover? I had always assumed they were sexually innocent (i.e., inactive) in the Garden (though Milton seems to disagree) since they didn't even know they were naked. If you don't mind my asking, Faith, what's your marriage history? To paraphrase Father Sarducci on the Pope, do you want to make-a the rules when you don't play-a the game?
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3955 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
there is no reason to assume they were inactive. i would suggest that "knowing they were naked" should be reinterpretted as "being ashamed of their bodies".
but that's probably because i'm a heathen.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1432 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
It may not have been a ... choice?
I had always assumed they were sexually innocent ... What if adam was not ... aroused? we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmericanOZen[Deist
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Well, it does certainly give rise to the question of just who the Horny Little Devil in the Garden was.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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