egotheistic pantheism revealed...

Scottness from the PNT:

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f you are unfamilliar with pantheism, then watch the movie, 'What the Bleep do we Know'. Ramtha (as she calls herself, and who channels the Hindu God Ram) will flat out tell you, 'You are God'.

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That particular movie is revealing and far more honest than the typical 'sel-described' pantheist, who is really only flirting with the concept. They posit the idea that we create our own reality, and that the problem with the world is that we need to shift from the Christian paradigm, to the 'true' paradigm.

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If you are unfamiliar with Spinoza Pantheism, then read Spinoza.Ramtha is some new age con artist. She has absolutely nothing to do with Spinoza Pantheism.Yes, I felt that you were, and still are, misrepresenting my religion.Edited by anglagard, : skipped a letter when doing cut n paste

Obviously not talking about what I or Spinoza believe. Show me where either of us have claimed to be God.Also, clearly there were no Spinoza Panthiests slapping Jesus while on earth. That is easily refuted:From Wikipedia:

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Benedictus de Spinoza or Baruch de Spinoza (Hebrew: ‘ —) (November 24, 1632 - February 21, 1677) was a Dutch philosopher of Jewish origin, considered one of the great rationalists of 17th-century philosophy and, by virtue of his magnum opus the posthumous Ethics, one of the definitive ethicists.

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Was Jesus in human form on earth between 1632 and 1677?

Obviously I think so. Is yours?

No argument there.

Care to elaborate upon why you believe this way rather than just engage in a bunch of unsupported assertions?I am pretty sure that at least in regard to Spinoza Pantheism, you don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about.Not only that, but I also believe you will never know what you are talking about in this regard because I believe you will never read Spinoza.

In Post 59: In Post 30: So what is this thread about? Shouldn't you know?, you started it.

To some degree, both. They often spoke of different things or from a different perspective. I would say that Spinoza had more respect for Jesus than you do because Spinoza held "The intellectual love of God is the highest good."Notice the term intellectual as opposed to through rote repetition of often unrelated or even misinterpreted quotes. From what I have seen, with the misrepresentation and obstufication, you are the one who needs to read the above more than once as you don't seem to understand what it means. After all, you are the one preaching how anyone different from yourself or who differs with your interpretation is somehow "evil."ABE - Somehow, I did not find the central message of the NT to be "despise others as you despise yourself."Personally, I don't think you love God as much as you think. I don't believe that there is room left for much after you first satisfy your own fragile ego with your own self-righteousness.ABE - Have you considered defining your beliefs in a positive manner as opposed to through putting down everyone else's?Edited by anglagard, : No reason given.

Rob I wrote that quote you misattributed to Jaderis, you were replying to me.Although I am flattered to be mistaken for Jaderis, please be more careful in your attributions in the future. Such sloppiness detracts from your arguments.

I think the above speaks for itself in terms of mudslinging, self-righteousness, and even paranoia. Tragic in a way.Edited by anglagard, : not add to incitement