egotheistic pantheism revealed...

Diffent gifts for all... all needed for the completness of the prize set before us. I follow you bro.All I know is this... that I have learned much here at EVC. I look back at my first posts with some shame. I'm sure I will look back with simmilar maturity in due time at the present.I place no pressure on myself at this point. It is training. And this is rough territory. A good place to learn to lay down our pride at the foot of the cross.There is a place for my ministry even if this is not it. I pray I will continue to grow in Him. And I pray you, NJ, and the others will as well. May He accomplish his will for us individually, and collectively with our repentance at each crossroads.

Whatever Archer... I'm unimpressed and learning to discern who to spend the precious energy on.Logic is real simple... It does not contradict itself.A logician (as I interpreted your taunt) is a game player. A fiddler with words. A magic philospher. An escape artist. A word smith. A childish amnipulator. An obfuscator. A petty liar. A brilliant lawyer. A medlesome tyrant. A boob! A nincompoop. A no-man. An anti-man. A man who commits suicide of thought.Better known as a Bart Simpson in a 'jar'... 'You can't prove it. Nobody saw me do it. You can't prove anything.'Well, I can't argue with that!

Only if you have made it so. Archer's spirit does not seem diablical to me. Sorry.

I should have spoken more carefully. My baptism became meaningful as a sign of obedience only when I made the descision as an adult. So, I gave it meaning not the other way round.Beyond that, it is only a ritual. Rituals are good, but only when they are married with understanding or pure intent. My parents understanding was minimal because they have admitted that as to that time in their lives, but their intentions were pure, so it was meaningful to them still. Would a diabolical spirit present itself as diabolical? Or does the enemy present itself as a warm and caring angel of light? A creature who is kind and loving and full of charm and clever philosophies?Maybe you're right my friend, but pure intentions aside, one of us is very wrong... Very, very, very, wrong.Collosians 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ.Corinthians 11: 10 As surely as the truth of Christ is in me, nobody in the regions of Achaia will stop this boasting of mine. 11 Why? Because I do not love you? God knows I do! 12 And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about. 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

Ah so Jesus = Evil spirit, well why didn't you say so before?

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I had understanding and pure intent when I baptized my babies into Christ. It was a sacrament, not only a ritual. A sacrament is when God imparts His grace, and his Holy Spirit.

Double post.Edited by Archer Opterix, : posting error.

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ArcherAll species are transitional.

It was not a taunt. It was information. Whether or not you can argue with that is of little relevence, because no one else said it. You did.The diabolical 'anti-man' you fight is a golem of your own manufacture.Do you always invent arguments you expected a person to make, or wish a person had made, so you can dismiss them--rather than take time to understand what is really being shared?I ask, because this seems to be another of your patterns.___Edited by Archer Opterix, : HTML.Edited by Archer Opterix, : brev.

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ArcherAll species are transitional.

I'd like your opinion on something.Here are two reactions to a situation.1. 'I don't understand it, therefore it must be from the Devil.'2. 'I don't understand it, therefore I may need more information.'Which reaction seems healthier to you? Why?___

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ArcherAll species are transitional.

There is no "enemy". There can be no enemy unless your god is a petty little local tyrant.You seem to profess a powerful God. Why not believe in Him?

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Did you think He was a pushover? A meek and passive 'girlyman'?This is just a taste of Him for you to eat, my dear DrJonesinforabrain...Luke 12:49 "I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! 50 But I have a baptism to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is completed! 51 Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. 52 From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. 53 They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law."John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

I don't remember baptism of babies in the Jordan by John... And we are baptised in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The baptism of the Spirit is something else. If you don't understand that, then you are placing your fiath in rituals and dead religion.Matthew 3:11 "I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me will come one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not fit to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.How perverted are some of our churches Anastasia? How controlling and religious are they? And how they pressure us to conform to their rules at the expense of life.

Archer please...You're the one who posited the notion that irrational arguments can be true. but irrational arguments are not understandable. What is there about darkness to be understood? It cannot be seen. It must be brought into the light of day...John 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.You are the one who doesn't understand. Understanding is a threat to you. It threatens to remove your covering and reveal your nakedness.Revelation 3:18 I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see.

The 2nd one...The reason is because that is how I found the Lord. But I did have to give up all my reliance upon the beauty of chaos. She turned out to be a harlot!

Well, then go 'party on' Wayne... Drink the cup of your desires! Indulge in the loving goodness of existing! Consume your fill of flesh.Me? I'm going to keep reminding you that there is hell to pay for such folly.Does that make me your enemy?