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Dongsheng Zhang Inactive Member |
Happy New Year every one!
A new article has published: “The new function and terminus of Darwin’s theory”. The article firstly indicated: The scientific facts are leading Darwin’s theory toward the Bible. The direction Darwin’s theory pointed out to people is just another pathway to the interpretation of the Bible. That is very different from the traditional “theology” that interpretations of the Bible only with the “spirit”, Darwin’s system has been using “material” exhibition of the part of the Bible was shown by God. That is the terminus of Darwin’s theory. See the article in: title Edited by Dongsheng Zhang, : No reason given.
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Admin Director Posts: 13014 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 1.9 |
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nator Member (Idle past 2190 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
I take issue with the accuracy of much of this article.
We can begin with the very first sentence:
quote: Darwin's theory wasn't only about human origins. Darwin's theory was about (as reflected in the title of his book), the origin of species. As in, the origins of all life after the first life emerged.
quote: There are many, many things that contribute to dramatic social changes. Darwin's notion of common decent with modification was not insignificant, but were Freud's or Galileo's notions any less influential?
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nator Member (Idle past 2190 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
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Edited by schrafinator, : double post, sorry
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Archer Opteryx Member (Idle past 3618 days) Posts: 1811 From: East Asia Joined: |
Hats off to Schraf for finding any place in that flood of verbiage to rest the sole of her foot for a debate. I'm still flying to and fro over this global catastrophe.
What do the creatures in Ezekiel have to do with Darwin? Something about DNA, says the article. But Ezekiel never mentions DNA any more than the book of Revelation mentions the Beatles. This isn't scholarly study. This is Manson material. Isn't it interesting that, in all the centuries the book of Ezekiel has been around, no one thought to go looking for DNA? It was only after science made the discovery, using its own methods, that anyone started claiming it had been in the Bible all along. Fundamentalists, as always, went quote mining in their own sacred texts and, as usual, found something they could stretch to fit from a particularly surreal passage of literature.
quote: ___ Edited by Archer Opterix, : HTML. Edited by Archer Opterix, : clarity. Edited by Archer Opterix, : typo. Archer All species are transitional.
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Dongsheng Zhang Inactive Member |
Ezekiel with DNA:
1A: A sentence in Bible Ezekiel Book: “ . . a whirlwind came out of the north, . . Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. . . they had the likeness of a man” (KJV, Ezekiel 1:4-5). 1B: The biological scientist definite that human DNA molecule is a “right-handed” double “helical chain” that is composed by “four kinds of nucleotides” that they encoding the “human biological body”. 1C: I think, obviously, Ezekiel saw a DNA “helical chain” as a “ whirlwind”; saw “came out of the north” as DNA “right-handed” helical; saw the “four kinds of nucleotides” as “four living creatures”; saw “encoding human biological body” as “form of a man”. Could you truly find anything exception of the DNA match the four characters of Ezekiel Code? Such as protein molecule, tornado, . legends, dream, novel, story in other religion books, movies, pictures, paintings, sculptures .
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Percy Member Posts: 22479 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
You may have missed it, but there is more evidence in 1 Chronicles 15:28:
So all Israel brought up the ark of the covenant of the Lord with shouts, with the sounding of rams' horns and trumpets, and of cymbals, and the playing of lyres and harps. "Ark of the covenant" is DNA, Israel is the realization of DNA in man, the sounding of the rams' horns and trumpets is the encoding of the messenger RNA, the cymbals are the mitochondria that provide energy, the playing of the lyres is the production of proteins, and the playing of the harps is the proteins performing their work throughout the body. --Percy
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
I think the whirlwind represents the turmoil of the Cultural Revolution, the four creatures are obviously the Gang of Four, and "in the image of a man" shows that they claimed ("image") to be acting in the name of Mao Zedong.
I have always preferred, as guides to human action, messy hypothetical imperatives like the Golden Rule, based on negotiation, compromise and general respect, to the Kantian categorical imperatives of absolute righteousness, in whose name we so often murder and maim until we decide that we had followed the wrong instantiation of the right generality. -- Stephen Jay Gould
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Modulous Member Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: |
"...out of the midst..."
How else does one come from the midst of a whirlwind but with a Great Leap Forward? Spooky stuff in that there Bible. Sorry, couldn't resist joining in
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subbie Member (Idle past 1275 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
The most compelling argument made on the site.
Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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Percy Member Posts: 22479 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
subbie writes: Personally, I found this bit the most convincing
The most compelling argument made on the site. I don't really see it that way. For example, I see nothing convincing about this:
‘‘‘‘—. ‘—‘ I mean, sure, existentialist biology does reinforce the claims of the proteists when reinterpreted in a Humean context, but then he goes on:
, “” , — “‘” , —— That's just way, way out there! --Percy
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subbie Member (Idle past 1275 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
I know, I know!
But he wraps it all up quite nicely in the conclusion.
—‘ “” ——’‘, ‘‘‘‘ “” —. “” — “” ——’‘, ‘‘‘ “” — “” —. In other words, as Hormel Descartes would say, "I'm pink, therefore I'm spam." Does that clear it up for you? Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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mick Member (Idle past 5006 days) Posts: 913 Joined: |
Dongsheng Zhang writes: Could you truly find anything exception of the DNA match the four characters of Ezekiel Code? Such as protein molecule, tornado, . legends, dream, novel, story in other religion books, movies, pictures, paintings, sculptures . Unable to resist a challenge, I looked up the scripture:
quote: Although of course as you point out there are many uncanny similarities to DNA - especially with calf's feet and the hands of a man underneath their wings, etc.
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Archer Opteryx Member (Idle past 3618 days) Posts: 1811 From: East Asia Joined: |
Actually, everything falls into place when we consider this:
— On this basis we can be sure the author of the OP means to tell us that Ezekiel's vision predicts the 14-10 Penn State victory over Miami in the 1987 Fiesta Bowl. The chariot arriving with a mighty noise represents the invention of the Bowl Championship Series. The 'whirlwind' refers to the Hurricanes, while the 'four creatures' who emerge from it represent Nittany Lions defenders breaking through the Miami line to pressure the quarterback into throwing the key interception.
This is further confirmed by Ezekiel's telling detail that the creatures, though called Lions, 'appear like men.' By this means he alerts the discerning reader to seek fulfillment of the prophecy in the world of men's team sports rather than, say, women's figure skating.
__ Edited by Archer Opterix, : even more amazing accuracy! Edited by Archer Opterix, : inerrancy achieved! Edited by Admin, : Fix image width. Archer All species are transitional.
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Dongsheng Zhang Inactive Member |
Re: Chiroptera, Archer Opterix:
Ezekiel with DNA: I appreciate all of your reply. Please go on to explain the second: 2A: Ezekiel described the four living creatures: “Their wings were spread out upward; . one touching the wing of another creature on either side.” “and each had two wings covering its body”.2B: The biological scientist described the four nucleotides in a DNA molecule: One kind of the chemical bonds is between the phosphates and the sugars to form sugar-phosphate backbone for linking one nucleotide to another. Another kind of chemical bonds is hydrogen bonds between complementary nucleotides (A-T, C-G), responsible for establishing and preserving DNA’s special structure and functions, such as, the bases are largely buried in the interior of the DNA and are kept away from water. 2C: I think, obviously, Ezekiel saw “bond between the phosphate and the sugar” as “wing touching the wing of another”; saw “the bases are largely buried in the interior of the DNA and are kept away from water” as “wings covering its body”.
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