The new function and terminus of Darwin’s theory

Happy New Year every one!A new article has published: “The new function and terminus of Darwin’s theory”.The article firstly indicated: The scientific facts are leading Darwin’s theory toward the Bible. The direction Darwin’s theory pointed out to people is just another pathway to the interpretation of the Bible. That is very different from the traditional “theology” that interpretations of the Bible only with the “spirit”, Darwin’s system has been using “material” exhibition of the part of the Bible was shown by God. That is the terminus of Darwin’s theory.See the article in: titleEdited by Dongsheng Zhang, : No reason given.

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I take issue with the accuracy of much of this article.We can begin with the very first sentence:

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People often think that Darwin was opposed to the Creationism when he found his theory of human origin,

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Darwin's theory wasn't only about human origins.Darwin's theory was about (as reflected in the title of his book), the origin of species.As in, the origins of all life after the first life emerged.

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which resulted in dramatic changes in human society.

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There are many, many things that contribute to dramatic social changes. Darwin's notion of common decent with modification was not insignificant, but were Freud's or Galileo's notions any less influential?

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Hats off to Schraf for finding any place in that flood of verbiage to rest the sole of her foot for a debate. I'm still flying to and fro over this global catastrophe.

What do the creatures in Ezekiel have to do with Darwin? Something about DNA, says the article. But Ezekiel never mentions DNA any more than the book of Revelation mentions the Beatles. This isn't scholarly study. This is Manson material.Isn't it interesting that, in all the centuries the book of Ezekiel has been around, no one thought to go looking for DNA? It was only after science made the discovery, using its own methods, that anyone started claiming it had been in the Bible all along. Fundamentalists, as always, went quote mining in their own sacred texts and, as usual, found something they could stretch to fit from a particularly surreal passage of literature.

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We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the complete works of Shakespeare.
Now, thanks to the Internet, we know that is not true.

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- Robert Wilensky

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ArcherAll species are transitional.

Ezekiel with DNA:1A: A sentence in Bible Ezekiel Book: “ . . a whirlwind came out of the north, . . Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. . . they had the likeness of a man” (KJV, Ezekiel 1:4-5).1B: The biological scientist definite that human DNA molecule is a “right-handed” double “helical chain” that is composed by “four kinds of nucleotides” that they encoding the “human biological body”.1C: I think, obviously, Ezekiel saw a DNA “helical chain” as a “ whirlwind”; saw “came out of the north” as DNA “right-handed” helical; saw the “four kinds of nucleotides” as “four living creatures”; saw “encoding human biological body” as “form of a man”.Could you truly find anything exception of the DNA match the four characters of Ezekiel Code? Such as protein molecule, tornado, . legends, dream, novel, story in other religion books, movies, pictures, paintings, sculptures .

You may have missed it, but there is more evidence in 1 Chronicles 15:28: "Ark of the covenant" is DNA, Israel is the realization of DNA in man, the sounding of the rams' horns and trumpets is the encoding of the messenger RNA, the cymbals are the mitochondria that provide energy, the playing of the lyres is the production of proteins, and the playing of the harps is the proteins performing their work throughout the body.--Percy

I think the whirlwind represents the turmoil of the Cultural Revolution, the four creatures are obviously the Gang of Four, and "in the image of a man" shows that they claimed ("image") to be acting in the name of Mao Zedong.

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I have always preferred, as guides to human action, messy hypothetical imperatives like the Golden Rule, based on negotiation, compromise and general respect, to the Kantian categorical imperatives of absolute righteousness, in whose name we so often murder and maim until we decide that we had followed the wrong instantiation of the right generality. -- Stephen Jay Gould

"...out of the midst..."How else does one come from the midst of a whirlwind but with a Great Leap Forward? Spooky stuff in that there Bible.Sorry, couldn't resist joining in

The most compelling argument made on the site.

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

I don't really see it that way. For example, I see nothing convincing about this: I mean, sure, existentialist biology does reinforce the claims of the proteists when reinterpreted in a Humean context, but then he goes on: That's just way, way out there!--Percy

I know, I know!But he wraps it all up quite nicely in the conclusion. In other words, as Hormel Descartes would say, "I'm pink, therefore I'm spam."Does that clear it up for you?

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Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin FranklinWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

Unable to resist a challenge, I looked up the scripture:

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1 Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I was among the acaptives by the river of bChebar, that the heavens were copened, and I saw dvisions of God.
2 In the fifth day of the month, which was the afifth year of king bJehoiachin’s captivity,
3 The word of the LORD came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the river Chebar; and the ahand of the LORD was there upon him.
4 And I looked, and, behold, a awhirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a bfire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
5 Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man.
6 And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings.
7 And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf’s foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished abrass.
8 And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides; and they four had their faces and their wings.
9 Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went; they went every one astraight forward.
10 As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.
11 Thus were their faces: and their awings were stretched upward; two wings of every one were joined one to another, and two covered their bodies.
12 And they went every one straight forward: whither the spirit was to go, they went; and they turned not when they went.
13 As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of alamps: it went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning.
14 And the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightning.
15 Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one awheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces.
16 The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.
17 When they awent, they went upon their four sides: and they turned not when they went.
18 As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four.
19 And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.
20 Whithersoever the aspirit was to go, they went, thither was their spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.
21 When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.
22 And the likeness of the afirmament upon the heads of the bliving creature was as the ccolour of the terrible dcrystal, stretched forth over their heads above.
23 And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, which covered on that side, their bodies.
24 And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the avoice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: when they stood, they let down their wings.
25 And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, when they stood, and had let down their wings.
26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the athrone was the likeness as the bappearance of a man above upon it.
27 And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of afire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about.
28 As the appearance of the abow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the bappearance of the likeness of the cglory of the dLord. And when I saw it, I efell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.

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Although of course as you point out there are many uncanny similarities to DNA - especially with calf's feet and the hands of a man underneath their wings, etc.

Actually, everything falls into place when we consider this: On this basis we can be sure the author of the OP means to tell us that Ezekiel's vision predicts the 14-10 Penn State victory over Miami in the 1987 Fiesta Bowl. The chariot arriving with a mighty noise represents the invention of the Bowl Championship Series. The 'whirlwind' refers to the Hurricanes, while the 'four creatures' who emerge from it represent Nittany Lions defenders breaking through the Miami line to pressure the quarterback into throwing the key interception. creatures on the moveThis is further confirmed by Ezekiel's telling detail that the creatures, though called Lions, 'appear like men.' By this means he alerts the discerning reader to seek fulfillment of the prophecy in the world of men's team sports rather than, say, women's figure skating.

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ArcherAll species are transitional.

Re: Chiroptera, Archer Opterix:Ezekiel with DNA:I appreciate all of your reply. Please go on to explain the second:2A: Ezekiel described the four living creatures: “Their wings were spread out upward; . one touching the wing of another creature on either side.” “and each had two wings covering its body”.
2B: The biological scientist described the four nucleotides in a DNA molecule: One kind of the chemical bonds is between the phosphates and the sugars to form sugar-phosphate backbone for linking one nucleotide to another. Another kind of chemical bonds is hydrogen bonds between complementary nucleotides (A-T, C-G), responsible for establishing and preserving DNA’s special structure and functions, such as, the bases are largely buried in the interior of the DNA and are kept away from water.
2C: I think, obviously, Ezekiel saw “bond between the phosphate and the sugar” as “wing touching the wing of another”; saw “the bases are largely buried in the interior of the DNA and are kept away from water” as “wings covering its body”.