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Author Topic:   No Abiogenesis, no Evolution, then what?
Nuggin
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Message 40 of 173 (249888)
10-07-2005 5:44 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Faith
10-06-2005 10:40 PM


Some alternatives
I can't think of any. Can you?
1) Naturalistic - Abiogenisis
2) Panspermia
3) Creation by God
4) Creation by a divine entity other than God (Maybe the Angels created life. Maybe the Devil. We have no reason to believe otherwise)
5) Life has always existed everywhere in the universe.
6) Gaia - Earth, and everything alive on it, is part of one large organism.
7) Life does not exist at all - we are mistakingly attributing ourselves with "life" when in fact we are not alive
8) Creation by super intelligent aliens
9) Creation by future Humans sending life back through time (yes, it's a paradox, but still more reasonable than the spagetti monster theory)
That list took about 2 minutes, and frankly isn't all that imaginative or complete.
Why, even if we rule out number 1, should we assume that number 3 is correct. Do we have ANY evidence in support of number 3?
How do we answer the fact that there is an equal amount of evidence supporting number 9 as there is supporting number 3?

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Nuggin
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Message 57 of 173 (249943)
10-07-2005 11:19 PM
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10-07-2005 11:12 PM


Re: Some alternatives
Well, 3 & 4 are magic creation while 8 & 9 are also naturalistic
So basically it comes down to it either was done by magic or not

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Nuggin
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Message 59 of 173 (249953)
10-08-2005 12:11 AM
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10-07-2005 11:22 PM


Re: Some alternatives
Then there is an infinite regression with the God scenario as well. Who made God? Where was God before the universe?

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Nuggin
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Message 64 of 173 (249972)
10-08-2005 1:28 AM
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10-08-2005 12:14 AM


Re: Some alternatives
He is uncreated
Uhh, in the beginning there was nothing. So, God, came from nothing. Abiogenesis.
Basically we're down to just one solution.

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Nuggin
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Message 66 of 173 (249985)
10-08-2005 5:15 AM
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10-08-2005 1:35 AM


Re: Some alternatives
God is Spirit, uncreated
No, God is exactly human. He has a mouth, butt cheeks, an apendix. He has wisdom teeth which need to be removed. And, assuming he's male, he has superfluous nipples.
After all, we created him in our image.

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