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mf
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Message 23 of 328 (95110)
03-27-2004 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by 1.61803
03-26-2004 3:21 PM


Re: The Water was supplied by reverse osmosis
There is some evidence that civilization before the flood was fairly advanced. Think about it. If everyone and all the kids they had in their lives lived to be 800 years old, the population would be huge, and people would have a lot more time to figure out what things were about (living to be that old and all). I don't want to get in to any kind of conspiracy theory garbage or anything like that — some people would argue that I already have, but here it is: There are some creationist theories about ancient atomic knowledge.
The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time. The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain. So the LORD said, "I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth--men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air--for I am grieved that I have made them.
Genesis 6
Gurkha,
flying a swift and powerful vimana
hurled a single projectile
Charged with all the power of the Universe.
An incandescent column of smoke and flame
As bright as the thousand suns
Rose in all its splendour...
a perpendicular explosion
with its billowing smoke clouds...
...the cloud of smoke
rising after its first explosion
formed into expanding round circles
like the opening of giant parasols...
..it was an unknown weapon,
An iron thunderbolt,
A gigantic messenger of death,
Which reduced to ashes
The entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.
...The corpses were so burned
As to be unrecognizable.
The hair and nails fell out;
Pottery broke without apparent cause,
And the birds turned white.
After a few hours
All foodstuffs were infected...
...to escape from this fire
The soldiers threw themselves in streams
To wash themselves and their equipment.
Excerpt from the Mahabharata (ancient Indian epic)
http://www.s8int.com/atomic1.html
Now obviously this site may have some problems, as it cites some conspiracy theory organizations, but please read the article on ancient atomic explosions. It is very interesting, and explanations are there even if you do not believe in a creation or flood.
I will post more later on the topic of history, as it very much relates to this debate. (I hope that this forum is not strictly science, because if it is, then history should be added)

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mf
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Message 24 of 328 (95111)
03-27-2004 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by mf
03-27-2004 10:42 AM


Re: The Water was supplied by reverse osmosis
Oh yea, my point was this:
If people lived 800 years, then they would probably be able to figure out things like reverse osmosis.

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mf
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Message 26 of 328 (95117)
03-27-2004 10:57 AM
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03-27-2004 10:52 AM


Re: The Water was supplied by reverse osmosis
Genesis 6 shows the possibility of a description of advanced warfare before the flood.
...and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.
It seems that if this was the case, then weapon technology development would escalate very quickly.

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mf
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Message 27 of 328 (95118)
03-27-2004 11:08 AM
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03-27-2004 10:52 AM


Re: The Water was supplied by reverse osmosis
I think the key to showing that they were not talking about a meteor was this part:
Gurkha,
flying a swift and powerful vimana
hurled a single projectile
Charged with all the power of the Universe.
Gurkha was flying in a swift and powerful vimana. He hurled a single projectile.
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PS: this is really interesting as well:
The letters in the mosaic are "KROKODILOPARDALIS" which translate as "crocodile leopard."
Think harder.
Ancient Dinosaur Depictions | Genesis Park
[This message has been edited by mf, 03-27-2004]

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mf
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Message 35 of 328 (95182)
03-27-2004 6:39 PM
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03-27-2004 5:19 PM


Re: The Water was supplied by reverse osmosis
Haha yes that is logic. Warfare is what pushes technology forward. You should have learned that in school or somewhere by now. So much of the technology that exists today comes from war/military research.

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Message 40 of 328 (95256)
03-27-2004 10:13 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Lindum
03-27-2004 2:30 PM


Re: Mahabharata
That "excerpt" doesn't appear in any version of the Mahabharata that I can find. Seems to have been pieced together from the various books by/for UFO conspiracy theorists. Here's a few lines I've found from another translation.
Maybe that has something to do with the fact that you cannot find the entire translated Mahabharata on the internet. It's the longest epic poem in the world. 18 books long. That is very, very long. No internet site has the whole thing that I can find; especially not in english. Books 5, 7, 12, and 13 are missing from that site. This section is in the Drona Parva (from what I am told, but I cannot find this in its entirety on the internet — too bad)
But anyway, back to the ark... If technology really was advanced back then, why build the ark from wood and pitch? Genesis doesn't suggest anything more advanced than that.
Who said Noah was a scientist or an engineer? Who said he knew how to use these materials? Reverse osmosis? I doubt if he knew how to do that himself. If some carpenter these days was instructed to complete this task, he might be able to do it, but I am pretty sure that he would not remember how to build an airplane, make semipermiable membrane, create electricity, etc. I am saying that it (revers osmosis) may have been readily available to Noah to use. You don't have to know how to make a computer from scratch to use it. But he would be able to pass down that such things existed in the time before the earth was destroyed. This is why we have all of these legends and ancient art of airplanes and technology (ie. Atlantis?????)
...more later...

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