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Author Topic:   Is the Global Flood Feasible? Discussion Q&A
LudvanB
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Message 186 of 352 (2808)
01-26-2002 6:15 AM
Reply to: Message 183 by TrueCreation
01-25-2002 5:41 PM


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Originally posted by TrueCreation:
"Actually pal what he is saying is that if you built a fookin huge boat on dry land out of wood her back would break (keel would snap) without the water taking some of the weight off.....
He`s not saying it couldn`t float he is saying that it would have fallen apart in the dry dock....."
--One, he could have built it on level ground, or if he had to, level it himself, second, your assuming that the thickness of the Ark's hull was thin enough for it to snap. It wasn't built for looks or to go anywhere, it was built for stability. Noah might have even encountered this problem (my feasable speculation), repaired or started over fixing the problem, remember he wasn't an ape trying to desipher numbers, he was 600 some years old, filled with 600 years of knowledge and wisdom, you could learn alot in 600 years. He may have known of this problem before he started building, we don't know too much of Noah's 600 year background.

hehehe...you really crack me up man. You are the prime exemple i refer to when i say that creation "science" is not a science by any stretch of the imagination. Who do you know,anywhere on this earth that can live to be 600 years old? Aside from the bible itself(which is not a science or medical manual in any way shape or form),can you point out to me a single begining of a shred of evidence that a human being can live to be 600 years old under any conditions? If you want to rely of your global flood theory to demonstrate the inerant nature of the bible,you cant use the bible to prove that there could have been a global flood and that Noah could have build a boat of gopher wood that could have carried all this menagery because that my friend,is called circular reasoning and thats the antithesis of science. thoughts?

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LudvanB
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Message 188 of 352 (2834)
01-26-2002 1:43 PM
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01-26-2002 1:34 PM


but the fact is that cancer cells are deadly to human life so they certainly do not allow us to live 900 years.

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LudvanB
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Message 190 of 352 (2860)
01-26-2002 2:55 PM
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01-26-2002 1:55 PM


But TC,it always comes back to this. You say that you dont need the Bible to substanciate your claims about creation and yet you always come back to it as supporting evidence. Aside from the account in the Bible,what evidence is there that there ever was a tower of Babel and that all languages were born of the events surounding its constructions. What evidence is there that the children of this Noah character all went their seperate way AS A RESULT of the tower of Babel incident...and an interesting question would also be how the hell did any of them managed to reach distant places like Australia,America and the poles.

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LudvanB
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Message 192 of 352 (2868)
01-26-2002 3:20 PM
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01-26-2002 3:03 PM


i'm not sure i follow what you are saying here. Are you saying that after the flood,the water retreated completely and people could actually walk from one continent to another?

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LudvanB
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Message 194 of 352 (2876)
01-26-2002 3:33 PM
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01-26-2002 3:27 PM


And is there any evidence to support this theory that the oceans actually dried up 4450 years ago...or at any time in history?

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LudvanB
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Message 196 of 352 (2880)
01-26-2002 3:43 PM
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01-26-2002 3:37 PM


Yes,there was an ice age. Geologists place its end about 12000 ago. But lets say that it happened right after the flood. How long would you say it lasted?

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LudvanB
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Message 198 of 352 (2890)
01-26-2002 3:58 PM
Reply to: Message 197 by TrueCreation
01-26-2002 3:50 PM


So lemme get this strait...Once the 6 months were up,there was a unexplained geological phenomenon of gigantic proportion that evaporated the water,which then condensed around the poles,forming into huge blocks of ice which have been melting for the past 4500 years slowly refilling the oceans...is that about it?

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LudvanB
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Message 200 of 352 (2893)
01-26-2002 4:07 PM
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01-26-2002 4:02 PM


And how exactly were Noah and his menagery NOT poached as a result? And why is there no mention of these conditions in any historical account anywhere on earth,the Bible included

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LudvanB
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Message 202 of 352 (2911)
01-26-2002 4:52 PM
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01-26-2002 4:23 PM


Indeed,volcanic activity underwater does happen all the time but not to the point where oceans are steamed away. And if Noah and his boat had been sailing on a boiling ocean hot enough to evaporate it self in 6 months,the temperature around and inside the ark would have shot right through the roof and they would have been cooked alive...and incidently,no insect could have survive THESE conditions...put a beetle on a lead in a pot of boiling water and observe what happens.
And i did not say that there were writings contradicting those events,i'm saying that there are no writings SUPPORTING them

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LudvanB
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Message 204 of 352 (2916)
01-26-2002 5:01 PM
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01-26-2002 4:58 PM


But then,how would the water have steamed away if the surface of the oceans were cool?

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LudvanB
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Message 206 of 352 (2921)
01-26-2002 5:21 PM
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01-26-2002 5:04 PM


what....water boiling and steaming away in only CERTAIN parts of the world? Even if that were the case,which i seriously doubt it was,all the sheer amount of steam in the atmosphere would have overheated the world as a whole,thus Noah and company are still poached.

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