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Author Topic:   So Just How is ID's Supernatural-based Science Supposed to Work? (SUM. MESSAGES ONLY)
Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 51 of 396 (438090)
12-02-2007 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by RAZD
12-02-2007 5:42 PM


Re: How Does ID Work? Presupposed Fantasy?
Science presupposes that there is a single objective reality.
Absolutely correct.
The alternative is to suppose that there is no single objective reality, that nothing is real -- is this the ID position? Should that position be taught in science class?
It is the position of evolution that face value reality, that is, the appearance of design seen in nature and organisms do not correspond to the work of invisible Designer. This means that evolution BEGINS with anti-objective reality presupposition.
Since when does science deny its main tool (observation)?
Answer: only Darwinian "science" does. Darwinian science is Atheist ideology. It assumes, from the outset, that reality is tricking us.
Ray

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Message 64 of 396 (438244)
12-03-2007 2:53 PM
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12-03-2007 9:51 AM


Proof of Satan
It may look designed but that is an illusion because we know there is no God!!
Atheist ideology negating face value observational evidence (= what evolution is).
How does a TEist, that is, a person who claims to walk with the Resurrected Christ justify agreement, concerning the appearance of design, with an ATHEIST?
Honest and objective persons know that there is only one possibility since Atheists and Christians are enemies.
Said Christians are not real Christians since the Atheists are real Atheists.
How do we explain why these Christians think that they are real Christians?
Well, Judas the Betrayer "walked with" Jesus for three and one half years, but in John 6 Jesus said that He knew that Judas was a son of the devil all along.
Jesus said that Judas was deceived.
TEists think, like Judas, that the are real Christians walking with Christ. But Jesus tells us the real truth: they are deceived by Satan.
Looks like Biblical typology corresponds to reality overwhelmingly. Every TEist thinks they are the exception, that they can support the Atheist view of reality and that Jesus has given them an exemption.
How could Christians embrace a theory that presupposes the appearance of design to not correspond directly to the work of their Savior's Father, but a deluded idea (natural selection) that only exists in the minds of Atheists?
Answer: Like Jesus said: He knew Judas was deceived from the beginning. In other words, the power of Satan answers the question.
Ray

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