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Message 13 of 236 (167477)
12-12-2004 6:45 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by jar
12-07-2004 11:31 AM


jar writes:
Tack who's online at the top of the page and let it float as a seperate frame.
The "who's online" box will be moving to the top of the page in the Christmas release.
Placing the forum header section in a separate frame is definitely a personal preference type of thing. It's on my list to add as a feature that a user can enable through his preferences.
Tack navigation buttons in a seperate frame or the same frame as who's online so that they are always available directly without scrolling.
This would be included when a user enables frames.
--Percy

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Message 15 of 236 (167483)
12-12-2004 6:53 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Ben!
12-09-2004 4:20 AM


Re: Multi-post reply capability
Improved behavior for the reply buttons is often suggested. I agree improvements are desirable, but identifying the specific set of features and how they would interact is complicated. All I've noted on my list is that improvements are needed.
In the Christmas release, the big reply button has been renamed "Gen Reply", and the hover text is, "Do not use this button unless making a general reply. Instead use the small reply button beneath each message."
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Message 17 of 236 (167492)
12-12-2004 7:12 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Phat
12-09-2004 4:24 AM


EvC Forum Appearance
I do like the way that the messages look on this board better than Internet Infidels or Theology Web. The black background is easier on my eyes. Will the appearence change when you upgrade, Percy?
The color scheme will remain unchanged. The most noticeable changes are the heading layout and the buttons. For the most part things remain the same, the biggest changes are in the underlying software.
One improvement I'll mention now is that the "Show last n topics" dropdown menu goes away. Through your user preferences you will select how many topics or messages you want to list per page (if you don't set them in your preferences you'll pick up the board defaults, which I think are 40 topics and 15 messages). At the top and bottom of each page are links to all the other pages. The page links are already present on the message pages, but now they'll be present on all pages.
Another enhancement I'll mention is that you'll be able to choose, again through your preferences, your own timezone, date format and time format. Those outside the Eastern US and Canada will no longer be a slave to US Eastern Time. Europeans and others who don't adhere to the US format will be able to have dates displayed with the days and months in the correct order, or can choose one of the unambiguous formats (e.g., December 12, 2004). I'm curious to see if this feature will cause any confusion, e.g., "I posted the message at 11:15 PM on 8-12-2004", which may be correct for the eastern US, but to someone in Germany who has set their preferences to the European style the message would display as 5:15 AM on 12-9-2004. Board administrators have have control over whether users can set these preferences.
One of the enhancements on my list is to allow members to choose their own appearance, including colors, fonts, font sizes, etc.
--Percy

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Message 18 of 236 (167495)
12-12-2004 7:15 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Ben!
12-12-2004 9:52 AM


Re: Adding profile or 'recent posts' links to the 'who's online' area
bencip19 writes:
The 'who's online' area at the bottom of the page is interesting. I think it would be really useful, and easy, to add links to those names in the box to either their profiles, or hte list of their most recent posts.
Yes, it's very easy and will be done. All names currently link to their message list.
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Message 19 of 236 (167497)
12-12-2004 7:17 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by RAZD
12-12-2004 11:15 AM


Re: Adding profile or 'recent posts' links to the 'who's online' area
would it be possible to change e-mail notification to IM notification for responses to posts while you are still on-line? this could ensure a continuing dialog and help those who don't use the [message list] feature on themselves.
Add IM is a priority, but the complexity of the task is unknown at this time, so it has no schedule.
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Message 20 of 236 (167499)
12-12-2004 7:21 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by RAZD
12-12-2004 11:24 AM


Re: Multi-post reply capability
RAZD writes:
how about an automatic quote facility, where you highlight text you want to reply to and right click to add to reply window.
I feel this is an important and desirable feature, and it's been on my list for quite some time. I spent some time researching implementation in Javascript earlier this year. The only difficult issue is figuring out where the cursor was in the message box after you've gone off and selected text in the box for the message you're replying to. I didn't figure out the answer to this one, but I came away feeling a solution must exist. In fact, maybe I'll get lucky and someone reading this has already solved this problem!
--Percy

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Message 21 of 236 (167501)
12-12-2004 7:25 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Nighttrain
12-12-2004 7:00 PM


Nighttrain writes:
I`d like a spell/grammar checker to drop over Brad`s messages so I can correct them before reading. But, then again, some of the words are so original, the spell check might have a breakdown trying to decipher.
Grammar checking, probably not. Spell checking, definitely, but I'm not sure when. The board used to have a spell checker, but then the company providing the service decided to start charging for it. When I reimplement spell checking it will be as an inherent feature of the board and not a service from another site.
--Percy

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Message 27 of 236 (167745)
12-13-2004 2:34 PM


Coming soon: tables!
Creating tables of information in messages has always been difficult. You can use HTML, but you had better not include any line breaks or your table's appearance will be very strange. But without linebreaks it's easy to become lost while composing your table. So many just give up and present their table like this:
Sample Size Color Weight
Bogwan Dam 24 Red 126
York 13 Orange 132
South Orange Center 21 159
This Christmas holiday I will be releasing the world's first (as far as I know) [table] code for bulletin boards!
You'll use the new [table] code as shown in this example. It's freeform, so formatting is unimportant, the result will be the same. The "table=80%" portion means the table is 80% the width of the message itself:
[table=80%]
[r]
[h]Sample [h]Size [h]Color [h]Weight
[r]
[f]Bogwan Dam [f]24 [f]Red [f]126
[r]
[f]York [f]13 [f]Orange [f]132
[r]
[f]South Orange Center [f]21 [f]Raw Umber [f]159
[/table]
This will be rendered in your message like this:
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[b]Sample[b]Size[b]Color[b]Weight
Bogwan Dam24Red126
York13Orange132
South Orange Center21Raw Umber159
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Message 29 of 236 (167756)
12-13-2004 3:32 PM
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12-13-2004 3:05 PM


Re: Coming soon: tables!
The [table] code will translate into HTML. I can only do what HTML can do. If the features you mention can be done in HTML, then just tell me how to do it and it will be done.
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Message 32 of 236 (167773)
12-13-2004 4:34 PM
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12-13-2004 3:51 PM


Re: Coming soon: tables!
I hadn't considered trying to solve any problems not already addressed by HTML, since the dBCodes (their new name) are just a meta code on top of HTML tags.
Addressing just one of your issues, it seems that formatting numbers to be lined up on the decimal point would be easy. Naturally you'd have to use a fixed width font, else just the variable digit width would throw off the formatting, but otherwise you'd just do this. I'm going to create a table with the numbers 1004.3, 29.57 and 1.2946, and I'm going to get the decimal place smack in the right place every time:
1004.3
29.57
1.2946
Click on "raw text" to see how I did it. It would be easy to have the board software do this for you if you select the right mode. After all, who cares how many tiny number formatting tables the software creates. I would have to define modes for the [f] tag, maybe along the lines of Excel formats, but this, too, would be easy.
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Message 33 of 236 (167807)
12-13-2004 6:03 PM
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12-13-2004 3:51 PM


Re: Coming soon: tables!
Hi Jar,
A little while after I posted the previous message I became curious if others had developed other approaches to the same thing that might be simpler, so I began poking about the web and found a reference to an align attribute value called "decimal". Giving it a try here with my same set of values:
1004.3
29.57
1.2946
It doesn't work in IE, and after exploring a bit more it appears that it might not work in any browser. Does it work in the browsers you're using?
--Percy

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Message 47 of 236 (168446)
12-15-2004 9:59 AM
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12-14-2004 11:30 PM


Re: Coming soon: tables!
Unfortunately, there are a few fonts with variable width digits. Comic Sans MS is one:
1111.1111
2222.2222
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Message 226 of 236 (421336)
09-12-2007 4:47 AM
Reply to: Message 225 by RAZD
09-11-2007 7:27 PM


Re: Another proposal ... re long urls
This is on the list, and relatively easy to do. It could easily make 3.0, and if it doesn't it could occur shortly after in an interim release, which I do frequently without any notice when adding minor features or fixing minor bugs.
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Message 228 of 236 (421341)
09-12-2007 5:02 AM
Reply to: Message 227 by Minnemooseus
09-12-2007 4:55 AM


Re: Signatures
I've was persuaded around to your way of thinking the last time we talked about this, particularly as it's not unusual for people to refer to their signature in the body of their message, and changing the signature could make the message unclear or even nonsensical.
It would also add a run-time performance hit.
The only place where I think it might be helpful would be in the moderator signatures that contain all the useful links, which change from time to time, but that would be only a minor help.
So there are no plans to update signatures in old messages when members change the signature in their profile.
--Percy

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Message 230 of 236 (423755)
09-24-2007 8:18 AM
Reply to: Message 229 by RAZD
09-23-2007 5:00 PM


Re: late request
Actually, I'm struggling with how best to do this right now. I'd like to create a drag and drop capability, where you might position the cursor over the "Message 65 of 71" text of the message, hold down the left mouse button, then drag over to the text box and release the mouse button at the point in the text where you wanted the message link, and it would drop into the text "[msgid=184572]".
I'm not sure how to do this yet.
I'd also need the equivalent for forums and threads, and since the text for forums and threads are already links, you can't left click and drag, because it drags the link. I could override that and cause it to drag the text, but then they wouldn't be links anymore. So I'll need some other forum-related/thread-related icon or text for people to drag and drop from. Assuming I figure out how to do drag and drop.
Drag and drop within the same browser window isn't the problem. It's doing it from one browser window to an adjacent browser window.
Right-click then selecting "copy" from the menu would also have to work.
--Percy

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