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Percy
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Message 226 of 236 (421336)
09-12-2007 4:47 AM
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09-11-2007 7:27 PM


Re: Another proposal ... re long urls
This is on the list, and relatively easy to do. It could easily make 3.0, and if it doesn't it could occur shortly after in an interim release, which I do frequently without any notice when adding minor features or fixing minor bugs.

--Percy


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Message 227 of 236 (421338)
09-12-2007 4:55 AM


Signatures
I vaguely recall (as in, I'm probably wrong) that you (Percy) had plans to set up the signatures such that when the signature changes, it also changes on all the old messages, like the avatars do. I personally would not like that system - I would like the old signatures preserved as they were when the message was originally posted.

Moose


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Percy
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Message 228 of 236 (421341)
09-12-2007 5:02 AM
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09-12-2007 4:55 AM


Re: Signatures
I've was persuaded around to your way of thinking the last time we talked about this, particularly as it's not unusual for people to refer to their signature in the body of their message, and changing the signature could make the message unclear or even nonsensical.

It would also add a run-time performance hit.

The only place where I think it might be helpful would be in the moderator signatures that contain all the useful links, which change from time to time, but that would be only a minor help.

So there are no plans to update signatures in old messages when members change the signature in their profile.

--Percy


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Message 229 of 236 (423684)
09-23-2007 5:00 PM


late request
Percy,

I notice that many people have trouble using the msg=, thread= etc links (mostly because they don't take the time to learn it, and for some it is a little to much technasleeze)

I also notice that YouTube proves copy and paste html coding to either link or embed the videos on other sites (cool stuff imho)

I am wondering if you could not provide a "copy link to this message" coding that would provide the dbcode ([msg=-f,t,-m]) to copy and paste?

(sorry inadvertently started a new thread instead of a reply to this one)

Perhaps using

and then showing the code to copy?

Enjoy.

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Edited by RAZD, : improved


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Message 230 of 236 (423755)
09-24-2007 8:18 AM
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09-23-2007 5:00 PM


Re: late request
Actually, I'm struggling with how best to do this right now. I'd like to create a drag and drop capability, where you might position the cursor over the "Message 65 of 71" text of the message, hold down the left mouse button, then drag over to the text box and release the mouse button at the point in the text where you wanted the message link, and it would drop into the text "[msgid=184572]".

I'm not sure how to do this yet.

I'd also need the equivalent for forums and threads, and since the text for forums and threads are already links, you can't left click and drag, because it drags the link. I could override that and cause it to drag the text, but then they wouldn't be links anymore. So I'll need some other forum-related/thread-related icon or text for people to drag and drop from. Assuming I figure out how to do drag and drop.

Drag and drop within the same browser window isn't the problem. It's doing it from one browser window to an adjacent browser window.

Right-click then selecting "copy" from the menu would also have to work.

--Percy


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Message 231 of 236 (423756)
09-24-2007 8:22 AM
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09-23-2007 5:00 PM


Re: late request
I notice that many people have trouble using the msg=, thread= etc links (mostly because they don't take the time to learn it, and for some it is a little to much technasleeze)

Some of us haven't bothered with it because it puts the link in a premade format. I usually prefer to embed links to messages in the text I'm writing. The dBCode doesn't let me do this.

Edited by Chiroptera, : No reason given.


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Message 232 of 236 (423763)
09-24-2007 8:46 AM
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09-24-2007 8:22 AM


Re: late request
Some of us haven't bothered with it because it puts the link in a premade format. I usually prefer to embed links to messages in the text I'm writing. The dBCode doesn't let me do this.

But I'm talking about people that are not familiar with making links and ways to make it more user friendly. You could add a first option (I thought of this just after posting the above) that would make an html link (that could also be used off-site):

code is

<select>
<option value=0><a href=http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=19&t=220&m=229#229>see this</a>
<option value=1>[msg=-19,-220,-229]
<option value=2>[msg=-19,-220,229]
<option value=3>[msg=-19,220,-229]
<option value=4>[msg=-19,220,229]
<option value=5>[thread=-19,-220]
<option value=6>[thread=-19,220]
<option value=7>[forum=-19]
<option value=8>[forum=19]
</select>

I don't know if this would solve Percy's problem with thread and forum number extractions.

I suppose logically you would want just the message link codes with the messages, and have separate link codes in the header for the threads and forums.

Enjoy.

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Message 233 of 236 (423789)
09-24-2007 10:28 AM
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09-24-2007 8:22 AM


Re: late request
Right, what you want is for something like this to be legal:

[msgid=18732]do this[/msgid]

Not difficult at all, except that [msg] is one of the "lone" dBCodes, meaning that it doesn't need a closing tag, and I was intending the new [msgid] code to be the same style. I'd rather not introduce yet another dBCode that accepts a closing tag but is similar in all other respects, but maybe a simple and intuitive approach will suggest itself as I work through the other related issues.

--Percy


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Message 234 of 236 (450406)
01-21-2008 7:17 PM


Picture Hosting etc
On the "The Herb Allure Forum Complex" forum there are some "forum extras" that may be useful to incorporate.
http://herballure.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?Cat=

You can upload images and resize them to appropriate size, for instance this one was set to 500 pixel width:

What is bad about this implementation is that it generates a random ID for the picture, you can rename it, however this does not change the file name.

You can also manage long links and have them display with titles. This is probably useful for commonly used long urls rather than any you come across, so it may have limited usability.

What would be useful for the pictures would be to have the ability to record the source (ie - website, camera, etc) and time where the image was obtained and have this paste with the picture.

Being able to resize pictures is good because large pictures are memory hungry and take time to load.

Enjoy.


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Message 235 of 236 (450410)
01-21-2008 7:33 PM
Reply to: Message 233 by Percy
09-24-2007 10:28 AM


Re: late request
Right, what you want is for something like this to be legal:
[msgid=18732]do this[/msgid]

What about using the link information as provided by youtube? with a default for "this message"?

To link to this message copy and paste the following:
[url=www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=19&t=220&m=235#235]This -->www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=19&t=220&m=235#235]This">http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=19&t=220&m=235#235]This Message[/url]

They make it easy to post rather complicated code.

Enjoy.

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Edited by RAZD, : moved video to This Message


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Message 236 of 236 (450424)
01-21-2008 8:00 PM
Reply to: Message 235 by RAZD
01-21-2008 7:33 PM


Re: late request
Great ideas, I've added them both to the list. You do realize I'm just one guy, right?


--Percy
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