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Message 106 of 236 (191302)
03-13-2005 4:26 PM
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03-13-2005 1:23 PM


Re: Long topic titles causing wide page widths
The problem isn't apparent in IE 6.0 when I set my screen to 800x600:
But I see that in Netscape 7.1 the context line just keeps going right off the right hand side:
So yes, I see the problem. This is a Netscape screwup. The context line has 's in it with breaking spaces placed at the points where line feeds are permitted, but Netscape can't seem to figure it out. Even if I place the line inside a table with the width set to 100% it still can't get it right. This is beyond my ability to fix.
Is anyone who uses other browsers also seeing this problem? Click on the second thumb above to see what Netscape does to the context line.

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Message 107 of 236 (191304)
03-13-2005 4:40 PM
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03-13-2005 4:26 PM


Re: Long topic titles causing wide page widths
Using Firefox.
I had noticed it before, but thought I'd bring it up this time. I saw that scroll bar at the bottom of the page, and I was starting to look for an overlong URL - Then I realized it wasn't a URL problem.
I guess I'm just conditioned to not liking horizontal scroll bars. Maybe there's a fix somewhere in the Firefox setup.
As software problems go, this one is on the cutting edge of "pretty damn small.
Moose

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Message 108 of 236 (191305)
03-13-2005 4:43 PM
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03-13-2005 4:26 PM


Re: Long topic titles causing wide page widths
Actually I see the problem even in IE6 unless I go full screen. But the big problem is folk that give us these long topic titles.
Seriously, I can duplicate the symptoms in just about all the browsers including IE, Netscape, Firefox, Mozilla, Avant and Opera. Mazathon is the only one where I couldn't get the issue to happen.

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Message 109 of 236 (191306)
03-13-2005 4:55 PM
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03-13-2005 4:43 PM


Re: Long topic titles causing wide page widths
It's interesting that the problem is widespread. I guess I have two points:
  1. I believe I'm using properly, but if anyone detects a misuse please let me know. I can fix this by using   instead of , and since the problem is widespread and the fix is easy I will.
  2. The current context line is not what I wanted. What I wanted was a block of text that had the property where the first line is left justified and all subsequent lines are right justified. I couldn't figure out a way to do this without writing JavaScript to fetch the actual browser page width and adjust page breaks and indentation as necessary. If anyone knows how to do this without JavaScript please let me know, or if you'd like to write the JavaScript that's fine, too.

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Message 110 of 236 (191307)
03-13-2005 4:56 PM
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03-13-2005 4:43 PM


Re: Long topic titles causing wide page widths
But the big problem is folk that give us these long topic titles.
Moose resists urge to issue counter-slur.

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Message 111 of 236 (191309)
03-13-2005 5:03 PM
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03-13-2005 4:55 PM


Re: Long topic titles causing wide page widths
Admin in message 106 writes:
This is beyond my ability to fix.
Admin in message 109 writes:
...and since the problem is widespread and the fix is easy I will.
I'm a bad Moose

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Message 112 of 236 (191310)
03-13-2005 5:04 PM
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03-13-2005 4:43 PM


Re: Long topic titles causing wide page widths
Problem should be fixed, let me know if it persists. I've checked it in NetScape, seems to be okay.

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Message 113 of 236 (191312)
03-13-2005 5:05 PM
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03-13-2005 5:03 PM


Re: Long topic titles causing wide page widths
Sometimes I underestimate myself (i.e., sometimes I'm not as dumb as I think).
The addition error in the "online now" line has also been fixed.
Testing fix to edit comment line, time should follow user's selected time format.
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This message has been edited by Admin, 03-13-2005 05:14 PM

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Message 114 of 236 (191351)
03-13-2005 9:32 PM


bad link at EvC Forum: Home Page
If I type into my browser and then try the "Recent Topics List" link it tells me the page doesn't exist. I have fixed my bookmarks so it is generally not a problem but if I am browsing from school it is a bit of an inconvenience.

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Message 115 of 236 (191358)
03-13-2005 10:07 PM
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03-13-2005 9:32 PM


Re: bad link at EvC Forum: Home Page
Clear the cache.
AbE
I see what yourtalking about. Yes, you're on a redirection error page. But if you click on all topics from the error page it gets you in.
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Message 116 of 236 (191359)
03-13-2005 10:08 PM
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03-13-2005 9:32 PM


Re: bad link at EvC Forum: Home Page
Omigod, another pre-dBoard artifact - thanks for letting us know!

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Message 117 of 236 (191372)
03-14-2005 12:52 AM
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03-13-2005 10:08 PM


Linking to website overrides Topic link (click here-> EvC Forum: Home Page <-)
This happened to me when trying to view the previous message in this thread, coming from the All Topics page.
The link for going directly to the message worked like this (run your mouse over the link):
Re: : bad link at
In other words, half of the link took me to the proper message, and the other half opened up a new window pointing to .
Ben

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Message 118 of 236 (191378)
03-14-2005 3:40 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Ben!
12-07-2004 2:42 AM


suggestion.
fix the link on the frontpage.

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Message 119 of 236 (191386)
03-14-2005 5:31 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Admin
12-07-2004 7:56 AM


Hierarchical view of a thread's posts
i've seen this in some other boards (usually really simple ones), and I think especially here, it would be helpful.
Is it possible to give a display option to users, such that a thread's post "tree" is displayed? It seems to me that a topic often goes like this:

(original post)
L user 1 gives some argument and evidence
L user2 responds, disagreeing with the evidence
L
L
L etc

in such a way that it becomes unclear what the point of the original thread was. Sometimes there are multiple "sub-threads" going on inside of a thread, each originally addressing the original post, but now with a life of their own.
If we had a tree view, it would be much easier to keep track of exactly where a post fits into the overall idea of the thread. This would help people have some idea at what part of the thread they're jumping in, and might help people locate "key" posts when jumping into a thread. With the current "flat" view, It's more like ... page through some of the posts, until you're just not interested, and then just respond. In a tree view, you can easily see where the major "decision points" are, and take a peek at those.
Just a thought. I could describe an interface view that makes sense.
Ben
(edited to add "pre" tags, to properly show the example hierarchy
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Message 120 of 236 (191414)
03-14-2005 9:50 AM
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03-13-2005 10:08 PM


Re: bad link at EvC Forum: Home Page
Testing - this post will temporarily result in a link to this message from the All Topics page.

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