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Author Topic:   General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures 11.0
RAZD
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Message 229 of 304 (413798)
08-01-2007 12:58 PM
Reply to: Message 228 by NosyNed
08-01-2007 11:53 AM


Re: Suspention of IaJ
He was suspended on another thread (Message 126)
And immediately after it was up he was back continuing his off-topic comments (Message 128), which he continued to do in spite of several admin warnings on that thread (Message 131, Message 139, Message 141, Message 146).
It's like he can't be bothered to find out what a thread is about, and he just starts posting in the manner of a troll or a spammer.
I've suggested he start a thread to pursue his pet concept, but he hasn't done that, preferring to annoy and disrupt other threads.
I'd say let the suspension stand -- he's earned it on two threads at least -- AND give him a warning that restrictions from forums will follow unless he conforms to the rules others abide by.
And WHEN he fails to comply then start restricting him. Let him have one thread to participate in ... on his pet topic ...
Otherwise you will have good threads buried in garbage.
Thanks.
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RAZD
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Message 234 of 304 (413909)
08-01-2007 6:44 PM
Reply to: Message 232 by Admin
08-01-2007 4:20 PM


Re: IamJoseph ... Rob, Simple, MartinV and others .... and ANY off-topic post?
I've pondered often on these issues, they're all good points, no need to say more.
First off, with the re-admission of several banned members, it would appear that the "showcase" forum is no longer necessary, and we should await the re-admission of randman ... and any others from the personal soapbox crowd.
Second, the question is how to control someone who posts similar nonsense on multiple threads -- not just IAJ, but anyone, like Rob, Simple, MartinV, etc -- so that many otherwise good threads are overwhelmed by these issues and the responses to them.
While outright banning doesn't seem to be working (or in the best interest of having an open debate), and the showcase forum seems to be overly restrictive (invitees only), I think a compromise could be made by restricting offending posters to a single forum similar to showcase, but one that is open to anyone to respond.
I'd also let anyone start a new thread in this forum {Soapbox?} similar to the way they are allowed in {Coffeehouse}, letting anyone comment on new threads, with good ones promoted to other forums when deemed appropriate by the mods.
When a member becomes restricted, the threads where infractions occur could be copied to this forum for continued discussions related to the infraction without affecting the original thread (which could be closed temporarily, or off-topic posts hidden like spam posts, to defuse the situation).
This could also be an automatic response for any off-topic post by any member, allowing continued discussion of the off-topic concept. The restrictions could be time-limited similar to current suspensions.
Enjoy
Edited by RAZD, : add MartinV for [msg=-5,776,-13] ...
Edited by RAZD, : hiding off-topic posts in original threads.

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RAZD
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Message 238 of 304 (413933)
08-01-2007 10:08 PM
Reply to: Message 235 by Wounded King
08-01-2007 7:59 PM


Re: This all seems rather complicated or ...
Hang on, aren't those the rules to Calvinball?!
LOL - it does seem like that is the case these days eh? But seriously I don't think:
(a) relegating a poster - and copying the pertinent threads - to a "Soapbox" forum would be any harder to do than current suspensions and posting of the same on the pertinent threads, or
(b) deflating off-topic post visibility in the original threads in a manner similar to spam posts would be any harder than posting large "OFF TOPIC DO NOT RESPOND" signs on such posts (while still preserving those comments in the "Soapbox" forum copy for those who do want to pursue them).
Treating ALL off-topic posts and posters the same would also be more visibly just system of moderation - the length of detention dependent on the severity (number or repetitions) of the offense.
A strict interpretation of this would have put several "evo" posters in detention for the "Most convincing evidence for creation theory" thread (... and limited the thread to maybe 4 or so posts giving "evidence" ...), possibly letting other "creos" participate before reaching closure.
It may even make moderation easier as once a thread is in "Soapbox" it wouldn't need further moderation for further offenses.
Just my thoughts
Enjoy.

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