General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures 11.0

I don't understand Minnemooses' comment here Message 12 on The Matt's thread concerning the credit to talk origins for the discovery or description of basic geologic principles. If one mentions calculus or gravity, are they required to cite the precise relevant pages of the Principia lest they be accused of plagiarism? Or are they required to give talk origins the credit for both????Or did I not get the joke?

I agree with you to a point.I agree that "Attributes and references are a good thing."I also agree that some of us, myself included, should do a better job of supporting our assertions with references.However I disagree that the earth sciences should be held to a different standard than all others. Namely that every basic principle in earth science should require a reference to some, many, or all freshman college texts in geology when this is clearly not required by any other field.I believe that you have indeed read the basic principles of geology somewhere else, most likely in your own studies. However, I also believe The Matt is completely innocent of any plagiarism, he is simply stating basic concepts in simple terms. If Coragyps mentions ionic bonding, is he required to cite a freshman chemistry book? If Cavediver mentions the general theory of relativity, is he required to cite a freshman astrophysics book? Do we really need a citation to freshman biology texts every time someone mentions natural selection?Or would they be accused of plagiarism for not citing the source?I mean come on, I can recite the basic laws of geology, I bet you can, and I bet The Matt can, all from memory alone. I think any accusation of plagiarism is uncalled for.I also believe, as I assume you do, that further discussion of this topic should be relegated to a PNT, so as not to clutter this thread.

My main point is that the insinuation that The Matt is guilty of plagiarizing is flat out wrong.If you would like to discuss this point as an admin, I guess we have to do it here.If you would like to discuss it as a regular member that can be replied to, then we can do it in the thread you suggested.If you want to drop it, don't reply.Personally, I think you owe The Matt an apology.

A true gentleman.ABE - any apology should be made to The Matt directly as he is the subject of the unintended slight.Edited by anglagard, : No reason given.