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Rob 
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Message 209 of 304 (412875)
07-26-2007 4:01 PM


Nosy over extending his nose....
Nosy:
Since you find the topic so uninteresting that you can't stay on it I have indefinitely removed your access to "Origin of Life".
Now that's rich...
I was actually very much sticking (after a brief departure into preaching which was adequately dealt with by said Admin) to the topic of origins. Right on the topic in fact. What I wasn't doing... was offering ideas on how to synthesize nucleotides.
If your going to ban me from origin of life discussions, please do so on that basis. For simply being off topic for the sub-topic (a pattern that I confess persists). Ban me for refusal to bow in submission to your 'theo' and it's stringent and incoruptable rules. Holiness is not something I am supposed to violate!
What I was doing, was showing the blatent inablity of the problem being solved. I was also exposing evolution for the fraud that it is in temrs of 'emperical credibility'. And the true reason for my banishment from the arena of ideas, is for the simple reason that I am continuing and learning to do so, effectively.
I refuse to take the mark, play by unfair rules and presuppositional bias, and am therefore not permitted to buy or sell or trade in the marketplace of EVC. Such is the nature of the beast.
So be it...
The rest of you beware. Either be beaten into submission and chained like some 'mind slave' to demigods like Nosy Ned, or learn to think for yourself.
No trying to 'prove' anything here... but it's definitely fascinating.
Then again, maybe it's all just coincidence...
All of this will easily enough be cast aside as the rant of a mad man. Don't worry Ned, your have them right where you want them; under your thumb.
I think I was beginning to lift the veil in a couple cases. You stepped in, right in the nick of time...
It was a close one...
So, good luck to all the newbie creationists... it's gonna be a long ride for you here at EVC.
It will temper you or break you. Erring now on the side of temperment, you'll start out optimistic, be severely dissapointed, learn more than you could possibly imagine in a very short time about your adversary, you'll marvel at the beast, and then eventually walk away, laughing at it's incompetance and obstinance.
Yet always be willing to reach out again and tell the truth...
I guess molbiogirl, Doddy, Matt P, and Kuresu are not strong enough in the mind of Nosy to keep me under control. Do you four concur?
Perhaps I Am the beast who needs to be banished in the end. One thing is certain; a beast will be banished.
As other members and past members of EVC have told me privately... it's the same old thing. It's truely fascinating.
Edited by Rob, : No reason given.

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Rob 
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Message 212 of 304 (412900)
07-26-2007 5:52 PM
Reply to: Message 210 by kuresu
07-26-2007 5:14 PM


Re: Nosy over extending his nose....
I will not argue with you about it here. I did my best to put it into my own words, but you don't like that even though you'
ve asked me in the past to do just that.
Would you like an atheistic/agnostic scientists view on the matter? Because you always gloss right over that. It's been mentioned before and simply ignored. This is where I originally discovered the connection.
It doesn't mean evolution is not true Kuresu, it only means it has yet to be proven; that it is thus far only 'theo'. You really must relax.
Paul Davies, theoretical physicist / Australian Centre for Astrobiology:
Davies on the question: ”Does the monotheistic tradition of an intelligible universe have any impact on modern science?’
“The worldview of a scientist, even the most atheistic scientist, is that essentially of Monotheism. It is a belief, which is accepted as an article of faith, that the universe is ordered in an intelligible way.
Now, you couldn’t be a scientist if you didn’t believe these two things. If you didn’t think there was an underlying order in nature, you wouldn’t bother to do it, because there is nothing to be found. And if you didn’t believe it was intelligible, you’d give up because there is no point if human beings can’t come to understand it.
But scientists do, as a matter of faith, accept that the universe is ordered and at least partially intelligible to human beings. And that is what underpins the entire scientific enterprise. And that is a theological position. It is absolutely ”theo’ when you look at history. It comes from a theological worldview.
That doesn’t mean you have to buy into the religion, or buy into the theology, but it is very, very significant in historical terms; that that is where it comes from and that scientists today, unshakably retain that worldview, as an act of faith. You cannot prove it logically has to be the case, that the universe is rational and intelligible. It could easily have been otherwise. It could have been arbitrary, it could have been absurd, it could have been utterly beyond human comprehension. It’s not! And scientists just take this for granted for the most part, and I think it’s a really important point that needs to be made.”
Ok Nosy, he did his job again on cue... now get the axe. Or is there a Judas among us who will do the deed in exchange for acceptance within the united body of EVC. It would look so much better if a creo admin did the deed you know?

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Rob 
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Message 223 of 304 (36120)
04-02-2003 5:25 PM
Reply to: Message 215 by kuresu
07-27-2007 12:34 AM


Re: Not the place for continued discussion of the issue

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