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Message 47 of 285 (354321)
10-05-2006 2:55 AM
Reply to: Message 36 by Faith
10-05-2006 12:29 AM


The "Private Administration Forum" etc.
Many different problematic members get discussed in the "Private Administration Forum". This includes Faith, who is in the odd situation of also having administrator status and access to the "PAF".
It, at least to me, seems that Faith is largely single-handedly holding down the creationist side all over the place. Doing such is a mighty heavy load, and Faith has done a pretty remarkable job of pulling it off.
My impression (and also probably the general impression of the other admins), is that Faith posts a lot of messages in science topics without having much science in her messages (not a good thing). The question is, is this causing other creationists, who might actually have some science input, to not participate in those topics? Or, as Percy/Admin puts it, is the volume of bad debate driving away the good debate?
In my very limited input in the "PAF", I suggested that perhaps Faith should be restricted out of the science forums. Perhaps a better solution would be for Faith to voluntarily cut way back in those forums. Perhaps she now currently is doing such.
Minnemooseus has a long idle "Great Debate" geology topic going with Faith. One of the reasons I have let that topic fall idle, is that Faith is spread so thin elsewhere, including in subjects much like that of the "Great Debate".
Personally, I am rather surprised that the creation/evolution debate works as well as it does, it being an apple/oranges sort of thing. As such, debating the mechanisms of the debate may be as or more interesting that the debate itself. Thus topics such as this one.
As most always, "or something like that".
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Message 254 of 285 (354928)
10-06-2006 10:34 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by Brian
10-05-2006 11:56 AM


Faith puts out large amounts of high quality bs
Brian writes:
and Faith has done a pretty remarkable job of pulling it off.
Are you on drugs?
The whole reason why this has been brought up is exactly because she hasn't being doing a remarkable job.
Brian.
My above quoted statement, in the larger form, was:
It, at least to me, seems that Faith is largely single-handedly holding down the creationist side all over the place. Doing such is a mighty heavy load, and Faith has done a pretty remarkable job of pulling it off.
There is the old statement:
If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with bs.
While her science input into the various science topics may indeed be pretty much nonexistent, she does succeed in putting out large quantities of eloquently stated bs. In doing such, she succeeds in keeping quite a few opponents busy replying to her. In a perverse sort of way, "a pretty remarkable job of pulling it off".
The various evolutionary theories, biological and otherwise, are very strong. Of course, the creationists dispute this, but are in a hard place to back their dispute with scientific reasoning. They have such choices as using either "points refuted a thousand times" (PRATT), some sort of nonsense blather, or "God's word says it is so". Faith seems to mostly do the third.
Now, Percy/Admin has stated that he has no problem with anyone disagreeing with evolutionary fact and theory on a purely faith basis. In other words, if the creationist does not profess to dispute the matter via scientific reasons - Then "no problem".
It seems that Faith does indeed disagree with evolutionary fact and theory on a purely faith basis. But then she also goes on profess that the science is bad, without much if any scientific argument on why and how the science is bad. In the process, she clutters up a lot of science oriented topics with her "eloquent bs".
Thus the proposal to restrict her out of the science oriented forums.
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