There has been considerable discussion in the "Private Administration Forum", over both the Omnivorous and Crashfrog suspensions (1 topic each). In both cases, it was a difficult call, but sometimes the situations call for a "do something even if it proves out to be wrong". My impression (IMO) both suspension were justified, but again, they were difficult calls.
Per the Jar/AdminJar participation - At least some of the Jar input was intended to be from AdminJar, but inadvertently got posted under the wrong ID. As things happened, Jar decided that it would be improper/too late to go back and change the ID to the admin mode.
It also should be stressed that in that particular topic, Jar and Crashfrog were/are NOT on opposing sides of the debate.
Per the standards of the "Coffee House" - I think the standards for serious topics there, should be as high as for the science forums.
Per the Omnivorous situation - His/her response was extreme, to an extreme statement from Faith. I think the bottom line is, that Faith is a representative of the Christian far right, and as such, extreme statements are to be expected from her. The various admins think that permitting "extreme fundy" perspectives are needed at . But we still don't want the "more rational" turning into the "unrational".
The closest thing to a public "Admin Only" forum is the "Proposed New Topics forum. The topic in question is in the "Suggestions and Questions" forum. I have recently suggested (in the "Private Administration Forum") that we have a new "The Public Record" forum, for "Admin Only" messages, but such has not yet come to be.
I would think that a "(MESSAGES BY ADMIN ONLY)" in the topic title should be plenty clear. RAZD has also posted to that topic on previous occassions.
More seriously, much of RAZD's recent output has been attacks on the person of Mirabile_Auditu. Feel free to look at RAZD's most recent messages.
Mirabile_Auditu is (perhaps) not unlike a maddened bull, and RAZD functioned as the pictador, sinking barbs and such into said bull.
I feel no rush to lift the suspension. Perhaps another admin might feel otherwise.
This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 10-29-2005 10:20 PM
My impression is that RAZD has largely been acting as a major league jerk since and in regards to Mirabile_Auditu's arrival. Remember, we expect the evolution side to be the rational perspective. RAZD reacted by dragging in all sorts of ugly past experiences from other forums.
I think that RAZD is very knowledgeable and intelligent. I also think he has heavy tendencies to be an arrogant bastard.
That said, I will now restore all RAZD's privileges.
there were very good themes, with very good discussions, that were very off-topic, and thus were getting buried somewhere bad instead of getting the good exposure they deserved - Topics of their own, with links back to the source topics.
In the "Coffee House", I think that topic drift control is just as important as in any other forum. Remember, we even did topic drift contol in the "Free For All" forum.
The "Coffee House" is home for both very light and very serious topics. I certainly have no problem with the light topics running much more freely, as long as some quality off-topic theme doesn't happen.
I think I was looking at the simularity of the titles "By their fruits shall ye know them" and "Right Behavior Inherits Eternal Life", and didn't realize that the two topics had actually maintained having two different themes.
This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 11-29-2005 12:51 AM
given that Faith is the only creationist other than Brad who has participated in the thread, and the Faith is a YEC, then it's a bit harsh for her to be attacked by dozens of biologists at once. I know these are the rules of the biology forums, but I have seen lots of decent threads killed with this kind of argument. I expect (and the EVC rules require) that all posters who disagree with Faith provide substantive evidence for their position or evidence against Faith's position.
I'm a bit irritated to find a thread I started with a great deal of effort degenerate over 24 hours like this. I (and Mammathus, and robinrohan (and, dare I say it, Faith)) have put some effort into our posts on this thread and it's being spoiled by completely irrelevant bickering with no substantive points being made.
(Not meaning to pick on you in particular, NosyNed. This is aimed at a lot of short content-free posts that appeared recently).
Mick goes on to quote a number of "high noise, low signal" messages.
Sidenote to Percy: Faith, as she mentions in the above cited topic, is apparently having trouble getting edits to take hold.
I remember how it started, you know. Minnemooseus started it, if I recall correctly. It was a cute conceit in his writing, a way to make moderation a little more interesting and make it appear "fair" when the Moose moderated threads in which he was participating.
Percy was the first to adopt having a second admin name. lbhandli was the second admin, who fell into obscurity. I was the third admin, and I too adopted a second admin name. It seems like a nice way to try to seperate the non-admin messages from the admin messages, although some of the admins tend to also often moderate while still using the non-admin name.
To voluntarily abstain from moderating threads in which they have participated.
It's pretty tough to follow topics you are not interested in. And if you are interested in a topic, you tend to some degree to also participate in your non-admin mode.
By the way, my main computer is still pretty FOBAR. Had an old Win95 machine laying around, so I thought I'd give it a try.