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Modulous
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Message 102 of 468 (508666)
05-15-2009 1:39 PM


Naughty words
I used naughty words in Message 188 and Message 51 and Message 52.
jaywill made his first complaint in Message 194 but despite my asking him to voice his concerns in this thread, he decided to move onto reiterating them in a different thread in Message 57.
This has had the consequence of inciting well meaning posters to argue that my posts do not contravene forum rules which has resulted in the thread becoming the smoking kindling for a flame war.
Since jaywill has decided to continue to stalk me around the boards looking for 'foul language' and attempting to goad me into debating it where it is off topic, I call for a moderator to make a decision as to how to handle things before they get completely out of hand.

Modulous
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Message 399 of 468 (563795)
06-06-2010 8:48 PM


*Slaps Rrhain around the face with a glove*
Skip to the short version (it's probably worth it)
The Gender and Humour thread, with all of its infinitely long posts is potentially becoming an issue. Hopefully Rrhain will begin to act civilly of his own accord. It is an unfair task to ask moderators to wade through Rrhain's epic posts so I'll provide the quotes of concern so they can be searched for for further context as desired. In Message 198
Rrhain writes:
nd given your own personal history regarding the treatment of gay people on this board (*Dan Carroll*cough!*cough!*), you're not exactly helping. You, too, seem to want there to be no consequences....
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We've been down this road before, Modulous. Did you learn nothing from the mass bannings of 2007?
Now I'm sure Percy needs no reminding of what Rrhain is referring to. The attempt to goad me was brushed aside in Message 200
Mod writes:
You responded on a defensive rant against onifre's homophobia...You even tried to throw a little defensive shit my way referencing an argument we had years ago.
But Rrhain decided to continue pushing in Message 218
Rrhain writes:
I'm the one pointing out that once again, you have decided to circle the wagons when faced with criticism of your abilities as a moderator rather than engage and explain yourself. You still haven't learned your lesson. The board collapsed because your incompetence. You, specifically. And now you're throwing another hissy fit.
I admit, I nibbled the bait a little in Message 222
Mod writes:
LOL. Temporarily suspending a member that was using personal insults directly lead to the collapse of this forum? Or was it when I expressed my opinion that I disagreed with the opinions of a group of other members that caused the metaphorical sky to fall?
But I tried to direct Rrhain elsewhere so as not to cause disruption to the thread. It is my view that Percy doesn't want a thread about the differences in humour in the sexes to become a flamewar about how unfair a moderator I was 3 years ago in a discussion about morality.
But if you want to talk about that in any great detail - it's probably best in Private Messages or maybe a Great Debate thread if you want it public.
Rrhain did not take that course of action, and continued to push. This time, not a small reference but a wall of about 1,000 words dedicated to the topic. A post in itself for most posters here in Message 224
Rrhain writes:
Oh, the condescending attitude, the false humility that you are simply trying to be "reasonable," this was exactly the way you behaved the last time we got into it. Now, I'll retract my comment of "moderator" and just leave it as "criticism of your abilities."
You really think that was the problem? Your attention span really is that short, isn't it? N_j insulted gays and berberry called him out on it...and got banned for it. Dan Carroll pointed out that it was wrong to ban berberry...and got banned for it. I pointed out that it was wrong to ban Dan...and got banned for it.
And so on ad nauseam.
I have again requested Rrhain take it elsewhere, hopefully he's got it off his chest now.
Apologies for the he-says, she-says, I know how dull it is to read so thanks for doing so.
So I am not requesting a moderator suspend Rrhain unless Rrhain continues to disrupt that thread with that argument. I am requesting a moderator issue Rrhain with a polite warning, directing him to this post.

The short version

Rrhain wants to argue with me about something that I think might be a problem to do in the thread in question. It's getting a bit personal. Please can a moderator refer Rrhain over here and ask him nicely to desist (if they agree with my assessment) ?
Here is my suggestion:
Rrhain, you challenged me in 2007. You said in Message 191
Rrhain writes:
You are the one that needs the timeout.
Make it voluntary if you have to. Simply don't respond to anything on this thread and see if anybody continues it. If it truly is an issue of us "lashing out" or "repetitively bitching and whining," then we'll keep it up even in your absence.
This I did. And now you bring it back up again. So clearly you feel there are unresolved issues that need addressing. Personally I am happy to let the affair rest - but if you insist that I have to face the music on this issue I am prepared for the onslaught.
You never did answer my direct questions to you. I know...by asking them directly and succinctly, that is a guarantee that they will never get answered.
You want answers? A Great Debate, Free For All format. No rules other than who gets to participate. You may have your satisfaction, sir!
Edited by Modulous, : short version added

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