Hi.
Could some mod perhaps slog through:
EvC Forum: Euthypro Dilemna(Euthypro Dilemna, starting at 24)
I do not make any claim to perfection in terms of my own behavior, but this is simply foul.
I am not sure what to call (some variant of lying) what they are doing (Teapots&unicorns and Stile), but it is without a doubt a form of intellectual corruption. These two are quite integrity-less, as far as I can tell.
What it all boils down to is that I made a very simple point. (I do get really long winded, but the simple specific point was very simple and very specific. If upon reading it, it seems complex to the mod, enough the warrant the replies made by those two, then please tell me that I am stupid, and I will leave. I have now finally had it up to here with this brand of bullshit.)
These two -keep on- ~twisting~ what I've written, trying to put words/arguments in my mouth. (Destruction of reality combined with creative reinvention has is place. Somewhere else.) And very specifically not even bothering to vaguely mention the actual points I tried to make.
When I tried to tell them (with great vigor) that they were mis-reading what I had written, they started saying that I am somehow to blame: the whole classic stupid+insane+incompetent, i.e. drooling-religious-moron, gambit.
(If I may say so, the simple use of this gambit should justify a serious ban. How do such comments in ANY way promote anything worthwhile? Is not its SOLE purpose to demean and degrade?? Why is it against the forum rules to call someone a liar, but Ok to call them stupid+insane+incompetent? WTF?
I kind of accepted it in free for all, but this did not take place there. More to the point, I really do not think that it was -at all- justified. It was used SOLELY as an attack-tool. Solely to bypass/ignore the requirements of rational discourse.)
Reading through Teapots&unicorns crap I am struck by how obvious his disregard is for any attempt, save to present the facade of such, of honest debate/discourse. Ditto for comrade Stile, who appears to be even more divorced from reality. (Or am I alone in finding their little games transparent?)
Normally, it would be quite difficult to make such an accusation stick but, in this case, the point being sodomized is very, very simple. I think that in a court of law, neither of these two could possibly defend their 'misunderstooding.' No normal person is that stupid.
The final straw was #40 by Stile. Assuming he had read my last reply to Teapots&unicorns (or had otherwise followed my suggestion in my last reply to him to go and re-read what I had written) I truly fail to see how any reasonable person can STILL fail, to such a degree, to so 'mis-understood' what I said.
Am I being unreasonable is stating that a reasonable man would not keep on ~warping~ arguments as he/she/it is doing? Am I being unreasonable in drawing the conclusion that they are deceptive, and not deluded or stupid?
(Is the reasonable man standard upheld here? If there ANY recourse for addressing the behavior of slick little bastards like those two???)
I especially liked Stile saying the following:
I think I'll have the police keep a close eye on you if you don't think other people matter.
Given that I HAD stated, as part of the argument at hand, that people don't matter... Kindly note the context within which this was said. Perhaps this is a joke. Perhaps it is not. Would it be Ok if I started talking like that? Without clearly indicating that I am joking? (God bless good old Wildey :-)
Note that I had let the above slide; like I said, nasty I can take: I give and I get. Rinse and repeat. Fair enough. But I have put in a great many hours in composing my little posts, and I am quite angry at having my time so badly wasted by the intellectual dishonesty of a pair of sub-human rat-fucks. If the purpose of this forum is to encourage dialogue, then they should both be banned. Period. Perhaps I & Mouth should both be banned too - but at least we do not practice the arts of deception. We do not play little fuck-the-head games. Their behavior is somehow physically sickening.
1) I would like a judgment-call on whether I was being "stupid+insane+incompetent". Note, I am not asking for an opinion on what I wrote: just whether the accusations machine-gunned at me by those two fuckers have merit.
2) I would like a judgment-call on whether Teapots&unicorns had -sufficient- reason to scream (in big red and yellow) that I am a Troll.
3) I -WANT- a judgment-call on whether they were, considered reasonably, being intellectually corrupt.
If they are found guilty on the last point, then I would suggest that they be banned for life. Now. (If they are found 'innocent', or even just 'naughty', then I'm gone: no great loss, I'm sure.)
The 2nd doesn't really matter that much to me, but it is still not right, in my opinion.
As for the first point, I would also imagine that they should both be banned if their history shows habitual use of that little 'trick.'
I just fail to see how any forum could possibly function if behavior like theirs is not executed on the spot.
Regards,
R.
(PS: Note that I have accused others of identical (and I mean identical) behavior before, in my now-dead-thread on LAVA. There too I found it impossible to get an actual response on an actual question. And etc. Took me a very long time to reach these conclusions then: this time it was just like having the in-laws visit, again.
But that was free-for-all, after-all. Perhaps I was being silly in the hope that outside of there, lies of whatever type would be frowned upon.
Either I am paranoid, or else unlucky, or else you guys have a serious epidemic on your hands: rat-fucks are breeding out of control.
Question: if it turns out that I am not a paranoid moron, would it be too late to ask for a similar investigation of the LAVA posts?
I can not properly express the amount of effort I put into that thread: if it was destroyed unjustly, as I am certain it was, then I want vengeance.
I discovered EvolutionFairyTale end of Sep... and was banned. But some of their rules made a lot of sense: I think one them was specific in that questions had to be answered, not side-stepped. EXACTLY my problem here.
Unfortunately, I have to ask this as well: is this state of affairs intentional on your part? If not, may I ask for examples of the execution of those who have transgressed as these two have? Because if there are none, then this site is a trap. Fact. And I am a very good, and very vocal, hater... and I might continue living for years yet... I get obsessive...)
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